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Bulsajo
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 Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject: 9/11 commission heads see repeat failures with Katrina |
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9/11 commission heads see repeat failures with Katrina
By David Morgan
WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (Reuters) - America's response to Hurricane Katrina was hamstrung by well-known system-wide problems that could have been fixed but went unattended and wound up costing lives, the two men who led an inquiry into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks said.
Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, the moderate Republican who led the independent panel known informally as the Sept. 11 commission, and his Democratic vice-chairman Lee Hamilton said the response was undermined largely by a lack of command.
They also cited emergency communications problems and a failure to target resources at communities facing the greatest risk of natural or man-made disaster.
"The same mistakes made on 9/11 were made over again, in some cases worse," Kean said. "Those are system-wide failures that can be fixed and should have been fixed right away."
Added Hamilton: "I'm surprised, I'm disappointed and maybe even a little depressed that we did not do better four years after 9/11. It says we're still very vulnerable." |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: Re: 9/11 commission heads see repeat failures with Katrina |
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9/11 commission heads see repeat failures with Katrina
By David Morgan
WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (Reuters) - America's response to Hurricane Katrina was hamstrung by well-known system-wide problems that could have been fixed but went unattended and wound up costing lives, the two men who led an inquiry into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks said.
Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, the moderate Republican who led the independent panel known informally as the Sept. 11 commission, and his Democratic vice-chairman Lee Hamilton said the response was undermined largely by a lack of command.
They also cited emergency communications problems and a failure to target resources at communities facing the greatest risk of natural or man-made disaster.
"The same mistakes made on 9/11 were made over again, in some cases worse," Kean said. "Those are system-wide failures that can be fixed and should have been fixed right away."
Added Hamilton: "I'm surprised, I'm disappointed and maybe even a little depressed that we did not do better four years after 9/11. It says we're still very vulnerable." |
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Why didn'tyou post this in the Bush to Blame..." thread? |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Well, this is more of a 'the federal government failed at a systemic level' article rather than a 'here's one more reason to hate Bush' article.
Plus that thread seemed to be verging on getting a tad hysterical.
Here's the entire article, plus my selected highlights in the hopes that it will trigger some sort of pissing match here (wish me luck):
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9/11 commission heads see repeat failures with Katrina
Thu Sep 8, 2005 1:58 PM ET
By David Morgan
WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (Reuters) - America's response to Hurricane Katrina was hamstrung by well-known system-wide problems that could have been fixed but went unattended and wound up costing lives, the two men who led an inquiry into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks said.
Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, the moderate Republican who led the independent panel known informally as the Sept. 11 commission, and his Democratic vice-chairman Lee Hamilton said the response was undermined largely by a lack of command.
They also cited emergency communications problems and a failure to target resources at communities facing the greatest risk of natural or man-made disaster.
"The same mistakes made on 9/11 were made over again, in some cases worse," Kean said. "Those are system-wide failures that can be fixed and should have been fixed right away."
Added Hamilton: "I'm surprised, I'm disappointed and maybe even a little depressed that we did not do better four years after 9/11. It says we're still very vulnerable."
Kean and Hamilton, a former Indiana congressman, spoke to Reuters in separate telephone interviews on Wednesday and Thursday, days before the fourth anniversary of the attacks on New York and Washington that killed 3,000 people.
The two said a leading cause of suffering for stranded residents of New Orleans, where officials say thousands may have died, was an absence of clear authority illustrated by bickering between state and local officials.
"There was nobody in charge," observed Kean, who said the Bush administration should now require states to establish clear chains of command for disaster situations in exchange for federal security dollars.
"There have got to be clear lines of authority because if there isn't somebody in charge, it costs lives. It cost a lot of lives in New Orleans," he added.
Kean said the Department of Homeland Security, a sprawling bureaucracy set up after the 2001 attacks, failed to produce two mandated risk assessments to U.S. transportation and infrastructure including levees such as the ones that failed after Katrina, swamping New Orleans.
"One report was due April 1. The other was due in early summer. Neither report has been done," he said. Homeland Security officials were not immediately available to comment.
Kean and Hamilton both said communications problems occurred between New Orleans emergency crews because of congressional failure to give first-responders nationwide their own segment of the U.S. broadcasting band.
"It is a glaring error four years after 9/11. Still exists. Not resolved. There are bills pending in Congress but they're far from enactment," Hamilton said.
Kean called on Congress to address the communications issue and to set new risk-based priorities for domestic security by the end of the year.
"Those are immediate things," Kean said. "And the federal government should require that states and municipalities set up command and control systems. That can be done pretty fast."
But Kean and Hamilton disagreed on how the disaster should be scrutinized.
Kean suggested Congress may be too partisan to win public confidence in any legislative probe of the disaster and recommended an independent commission like the panel he oversaw.
But Hamilton, who once chaired the House of Representatives intelligence committee, said Republican plans for a joint bipartisan inquiry should be allowed to move forward before an independent investigation is considered.
"If this joint inquiry develops to be a kind of cover-up, or is not aggressive or not robust in its oversight, then I'd change my mind pretty quickly," Hamilton said. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Failure or success, it all depends how you look at.
Ordo Ab Chao
VIDEO: Earwitness tells ABC explosives blew Industrial Canal levee
Total Information Analysis | September 12 2005
Total411.info has obtained video of an ABC News report featuring an earwitness to explosives used to destroy the Industrial Canal in New Orleans.
Here's the video, and here's the transcript:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/120905explosivesblew.htm |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe you're doing this AGAIN- you didn't actually check the link before hotlinking to it, did you?
You just got the link from one of your loonie sites, where they claimed this link had proof and so you copied it here, right?
Or... c'mon buddy, put your money where your mouth is and tell us why this is so important. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Okay, that's it.
I may have insulted you and questioned your sanity but I have always responded to whatever it is that you post- you, on the other hand, constantly ignore whatever I write and just continue on your merry way posting more and more crazy shit without ever commenting on it or backing it up.
So you will be happy to learn that I won't be responding to you any more- you have nothing to offer other than wasting my time. |
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