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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:12 am Post subject: Chickens |
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I saw an editorial in the Munhwa Ilbo today about how it must be to be a chicken right now...the numbers culled/killed according to it are
2.45 million in Korea
11 million in Thailand
5 million in Indonesia
3 million in Vietnam...
He was writing about how awful it would to be a chicken nowadays, getting taken off to be killed because one of your friends got the flu that might spread to humans.
Why am I bringing this up? I didn't expect to see an editorial on that, that's why. He claimed that this mass culling is a little bit extreme. Apparently there were quite a few farmers that killed themselves after being forced to take out all their chickens. Whether it was for economic reasons or just the shock of it, I don't know.
Another note, in my opinion it's quite silly that new strains of disease always become front cover news even when they have only killed a small handful of people. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. Overblown SARS media hysteria set the bar for the next big health scare out of Asia. Reaction seems way out of proportion. Who's behind it & why is interesting to speculate. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:15 am Post subject: |
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tell that to my avatar  |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
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Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| My gf won't eat beef at the moment and won't let me eat it either. Is that overreacting? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Oddly enough, I've also been thinking about this. What an existential predicament! Your only reason for existence is to be eaten but instead they dump you in a hole in the ground and suffocate you. The chicken philosophers must be publishing articles all over the avian internet.
Out of a perhaps misplaced sense of loyalty to our feathered friend the chicken I have been eating more dak-galbi lately. My beef consumption has also increased. (I'm delighted to have an excuse not to eat fatty sahm-gyap-sahl.) |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Another note, in my opinion it's quite silly that new strains of disease always become front cover news even when they have only killed a small handful of people. |
Perhaps, but the mortality rate of this disease is shocking. I think the term "flu" tends to mislead people into believing this isn't much more serious than a really bad cold, but in fact if it mutates into a strain that can be transmitted from human to human the effect would be more like the bubonic plague that swept through Europe- at the risk of sounding like Anda the worst case scenario is downright apocalyptic.
What I DO find overblown is the Mad Cow scare- 2 cows out of millions in North America shown to have BSE in the past year, but how many people have contracted Kruetzfeld-Jacob disease? 1 in a million? And some of those cases are hereditary... But then again, however you get it, it's 100% fatal...
http://www.cjdfoundation.org/CJDInfo.html
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I eat chicken 2-3 times a week. Just make sure it is fully cooked and you should be fine. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| I eat chicken 2-3 times a week. Just make sure it is fully cooked and you should be fine. |
No, you are missing the point entirely, or perhaps getting confused with salmonella and/or Mad Cow. Avian flu can't be contracted by eating the meat of a dead infected chicken- you have to come in contact with a live one. Right now that's the only way it can be transmitted to humans- chicken to human. But IF it mutates into a strain that can be passed from human to human... imagine a strain of influenza with a mortality rate of something like 70%. |
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Who would want to eat diseased meat,whether or not it would harm you?
Gross. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think Avian Flu will care if you're a vegetarian or not... |
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Derrek
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| SuperHero wrote: |
| I eat chicken 2-3 times a week. Just make sure it is fully cooked and you should be fine. |
No, you are missing the point entirely, or perhaps getting confused with salmonella and/or Mad Cow. Avian flu can't be contracted by eating the meat of a dead infected chicken- you have to come in contact with a live one. Right now that's the only way it can be transmitted to humans- chicken to human. But IF it mutates into a strain that can be passed from human to human... imagine a strain of influenza with a mortality rate of something like 70%. |
Scary to think it may only be a matter of time before something like that happens....
Spanish Influenza killed off hundreds of thousands across the world, and was arguably part of the reason for WW I coming to a close. |
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Bulsajo
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
Scary to think it may only be a matter of time before something like that happens....
Spanish Influenza killed off hundreds of thousands across the world, and was arguably part of the reason for WW I coming to a close. |
No, more like 25-40 million people died. If it struck your home, you could kiss half your family members goodbye. Epidemiologists do warn of the next 'big one.' |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Chickens |
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| mithridates wrote: |
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He was writing about how awful it would to be a chicken nowadays..... |
Well, in my case it has never been easy.  |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Out of a perhaps misplaced sense of loyalty to our feathered friend the chicken I have been eating more dak-galbi lately. My beef consumption has also increased. (I'm delighted to have an excuse not to eat fatty sahm-gyap-sahl.) |
Us chickens than you very much. |
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