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salboski

Joined: 12 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: Our Director is delaying our visas |
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Hi,
I originally posted 'legitimate reasons to quit' a few days ago, but I want to start a new topic with a spin off from that one.
To summarize, our boss pushes the limits of our contract whenever she can, but never quite crosses it. She promised us a two bedroom apt (it's even in the contract) and she stuck us in a one bedroom, saying "in Korea two bedroom means two rooms". And numerous other small things...
But what my wife and I need help with now is that our director is continuously delaying our visa run. At first she said it was because of money. And then she had to wait for immigration to tour her school, because it is new and she can't have foreign teachers working there until her work site is accredited...or whatever...which is happening this week.
So we are teaching illegally, of course.
She delayed us past our 30 day tourist visa and we accumulated fines.
Of course we didn't realize we had overstayed our 30 visa until after that fact. We thought we had a 90 day visa--but US citizens only get 30 day visas.
Once we told the director this, she promised us she'd take care of it and within 48 hours we had an extension stamp in our passport, giving us 60 more days. So, she did take care of it.
It's sad to say, but she basically used flirtation and her looks to get our visa extension...and a 100,000 WON bribe to the immigration official at the office. She took the guy out and got him drunk and flirted (I assume ) and he said if she paid and extra 100,000 won, he's process the papers.
Korea is so corrupt.
So we would like to leave. It's not terrible at our school. We kind of like it, but we feel PUSHED everyday by our director to do more, work more, prepare more, etc. And there's the visa. I think she'll send us to get one soon. But even if she does send us on our visa run in another week, can we ever trust her????
We also don't think we CAN leave, because she's already gotten our 'green papers' (?). Those are what she files with immigration saying that she is sponsoring us. So we can't work for anyone else until she gives us a letter of release.
We could try to get another job, but when that employer applied for another 'green paper', he'd be told that we are already under the sponsorship of another person.
Does anyone know more about this 'green paper' or whatever it's called? I'm pretty sure we can't leave now that she's got it. Obviously, she's not going to give us a letter of release willingly. And my wife and I don't want to go home. So, we're stuck right?
And is she typical Korean or is she worse than a normal one? If we go to another school, will it be the same?
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Our Director is delaying our visas |
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Korea is so corrupt. |
*sob*
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But even if she does send us on our visa run in another week, can we ever trust her???? |
*whine*
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And is she typical Korean or is she worse than a normal one? |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Here there and everywhere!
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Make a choice either to stay or leave.
If you decide to stay then I suggest you refuse to teach until you get your visa.... otherwise you could get caught, or your boss may take a LOT longer to sort it out. Make a stand.
If you choose to leave, then do it before your visa is sorted. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Do you REALLY want to put up with this...um...STUFF...for a whole year??? From the sounds of it, she hasn't filed ANYTHING with immigration, so you're free to find another job. DO IT! |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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It's sad to say, but she basically used flirtation and her looks to get our visa extension...and a 100,000 WON bribe to the immigration official at the office. She took the guy out and got him drunk and flirted (I assume ) and he said if she paid and extra 100,000 won, he's process the papers. |
Just out of interest, but exactly how do you know this?
Sorry to be a little harsh, but grow up and make some decisions YOURSELF. If you don't want to work there, leave. If they paid your airfares over, pay them back, and leave. Contrary to what you think you're not an indentured laborer and can leave anytime you wish. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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You are crazy to still be there. You overstayed a tourist visa, and your boss already asked Immi for an extension. You're a sitting duck. Get out before you get deported. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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GET OUT NOW! She has no legal hold on you. That paper (blue form BTW) not "green" has not likely been filed at all. She is simply trying to keep on to you. LEAVE now. Now that Immigration has been alerted to the fact that you overstayed your visa you are now on their radar screen. Don't be surprised if they show up at your school in the hopes of catching you teaching illegally. If they do you will be fined and likely deported (as this is a second offense). And then you may not be able to come back to Korea for a long while. |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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You will probably be caught by immigration for teaching illegally, and be deported, in short order. Because you've done so many stupid things up until this point. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid I have to agree with Manner of Speaking on this point.
No one can use you unless you let them and boy oh boy, it sounds like you have been bent over, shafted and are begging for more! |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Grotto wrote: |
No one can use you unless you let them and boy oh boy, it sounds like you have been bent over, shafted and are begging for more! |
As Spock would say, "Colloquially put, but essentially correct."  |
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purple_buddha
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Run! Until your passports are stamped with an E-2 visa, the contracts you signed are worthless. You have NO obligation to the school and you are teaching illegally. There's nothing your director can do if you choose to leave.
Stop getting strung along; this is classic bs behavior by a hagwon director.
Meanwhile, you're sitting around with a huge bulls-eye on your nether region just begging for more fines and deportation when (not if) immigration officials arrive at your school!
Then, you won't be able to come back to Korea for three more years. |
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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Our Director is delaying our visas |
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Corporal wrote: |
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Korea is so corrupt. |
*sob*
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But even if she does send us on our visa run in another week, can we ever trust her???? |
*whine*
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And is she typical Korean or is she worse than a normal one? |
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Sticks fork in his eye. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:59 am Post subject: |
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saying "in Korea two bedroom means two rooms". And numerous other small things...
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The woman is not being straight with you. All my Korean friends drive me crazy with this expression: I have a two room apartment. After prying with a crowbar I always find out they have a kitchen, bathroom, living room and two bedrooms. 5 rooms. Every Korean I know uses the expression 'two room' to mean two bedrooms. NOT one bedroom and everything else in another room.
Someone mentioned in another thread that people should ask their boss for a written note from Immigration saying it is OK to work before the E-2 is issued. I think that is the wisest strategy when put in that position. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Ya-Ta Boy wrote: |
Someone mentioned in another thread that people should ask their boss for a written note from Immigration saying it is OK to work before the E-2 is issued. I think that is the wisest strategy when put in that position |
This is a good idea but immigration will only give it to you in exceptional circumstances, not due to incompetance or laziness....
Perhaps she can throw immigration another 100 000 won....wouldn't hurt..
But I'm with the others...get out now, if you don't you will probably end up doing a runner in your contract anyway being owed a lot of money.
You can still work anywhere, just disspaear into a yeogwan and search out the surrounding areas, she can do nothing...
You may regret your own laziness and complacency later |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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What, you still haven't left yet?
You'd better hurry! |
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