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So is downloading tv/movies/games/music illegal in Korea?
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elric



Joined: 24 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: So is downloading tv/movies/games/music illegal in Korea? Reply with quote

I see all these posts about Bit Torrent and such. So I'm trying to get a job in Korea. Do I bring all my d/led divx movies, music, and games? Is downloading an accepted practice? Or is there just laws that nobody follows?

Thanks in advance.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I am relatively certain Korea has copyright infringement laws just like most other countries, Korea is also the country where the government gave up on its much publicized crack-down on unlicenced operating systems because it realized it would have to practically shut itself down.
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hojucandy



Joined: 03 Feb 2003
Location: In a better place

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as a memebr of the WTO korea is necessarily a signatory to international copyright law. new members are given about 5 years to clean their act up or pay major fines. not sure when korea joined but the government is actually liable for failure to enforce copy right law.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it's been more than 5 years. '97 seems to ring a bell but I could be mistaken and can't be bothered to look it up.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting question. Korea to me is like the "Wild West" of copyright. I love it.

I've had friends ask for genuine original versions of Windows when bying new a new p.c here only to be laughed at.

Contrast this with what happens in New Zealand. There, people have been taken to court (or threatened with court action) for selling their own genuine versions second hand in yard sales. Most setle out of court paying up to $10,000 to Micro$oft.

If you are in Korea,for some reason Microsoft and Sony for that matter won't even attempt to do the same thing. Look at what goes on "under the bridge" in Yongsan.

Also , I've never had problems or threats from either ISPs or the MPAA, although I'm pretty sure my bandwidth/connections where capped for a while.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. It's all illegal. However, if someone is pirating Korean music or goods, there is HELL to pay. For example, the Chinese have started knocking off Samsung and iRiver mp3 players. Anyone in Korea caught selling these knock offs basically has a jail cell waiting for him. Now, if Koreans are pirating European and American goods, well, just go ask the guy selling fake LV and Coach bags RIGHT IN FRONT of the Dongdaemoon police station if there's much motivation...
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betchay



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm... there's a korean website where you can download english and korean movies/tv shows/music/program better than bittorrent... if it's illegal, they probably don't care that much Very Happy
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't think of the (korean) software name atm... but, when you search for a current movie, it comes up with something like "movie cannot be shared"

it shares old stuff and stuff that hasn't been copywritten, but it won't display the current gear..
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think physically importing the stuff on CDs is a totally different question. If you get stopped for a customs search, what's your answer going to be to all the CDs with the funky labels? "Back-ups?"
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pangit wrote:
I think physically importing the stuff on CDs is a totally different question. If you get stopped for a customs search, what's your answer going to be to all the CDs with the funky labels? "Back-ups?"

It's not going to be an issue, because you aren't going to do that.
Whether legit or not, CDs and DVDs can take up a lot of space and weight- if you're moving then leave them behind; Sell, them give them away to friends, trade them for beers, etc.
BUT before you get to that stage, you will have already gone out and bought 1 (or possibly 2) large capacity Hard Drive(s) and you will have ripped all of your game, music, and video CDs and DVDs onto the hard drive.

I did this and it worked like a charm. It's not for everyone but it defintely was the right decision for me, and if you're worried about customs then it's the right decision for you too.
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Pangit wrote:
I think physically importing the stuff on CDs is a totally different question. If you get stopped for a customs search, what's your answer going to be to all the CDs with the funky labels? "Back-ups?"

It's not going to be an issue, because you aren't going to do that.
Whether legit or not, CDs and DVDs can take up a lot of space and weight- if you're moving then leave them behind; Sell, them give them away to friends, trade them for beers, etc.
BUT before you get to that stage, you will have already gone out and bought 1 (or possibly 2) large capacity Hard Drive(s) and you will have ripped all of your game, music, and video CDs and DVDs onto the hard drive.

I did this and it worked like a charm. It's not for everyone but it defintely was the right decision for me, and if you're worried about customs then it's the right decision for you too.


Sorry, when the OP mentioned bringing all the downloaded whatnots, I just assumed it would all be backed up to discs. I'm not really much of a pirate and hadn't thought of smuggling data cross-border to that extent, on a hard drive and all. What happened to micro-fiche, anyway?

20 DVDs, I think, is cheaper than an 80 gigabyte hard drive, and should be a negligible weight, but why bother taking the space/weight up with either/or, when you can have the software in a few minutes the same way you got it in the first place? Question me, question him, go back to your original source, it's more reliable - it's already worked for you the first time.

Copy it to your iPod, SD card, or whatever. Acquire it from some guy with frosted hair wearing lightly tinted aviators hawking his stuff under a bridge in an open-air electronics market, or whatever. Just ... whatever, man.

You're making me paranoid.
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hypnotist



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAPP won a court case against Soribada yesterday. Am sure it's covered somewhere online. Sounds like the crackdown-season has another victim.
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
just go ask the guy selling fake LV and Coach bags RIGHT IN FRONT of the Dongdaemoon police station if there's much motivation...


ive seen many a person busted for that... with a huge fines
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pangit wrote:

You're making me paranoid.

Sorry, didn't mean to. Just suggesting a worthwhile alternative if you were seriously concerned is all.
I personally went this route not because of Customs concerns but weight and space issues- my music CD collection was about 150 CDs and I had probably half that much in software CDs. I had an mp3 player and wanted rip most of the CDs anyway.
Even ditching the cases and putting them all in soft case-logic books still added up to a fair amount of luggage weight which could have been put to better use.
In the end I brought a soft case of 30 CDs (all O/S, system, software) and ripped my entire music collection onto my existing harddrive space, so there was no need to buy another HD. But these days, with DVDs, I just assume that another HD is neccessary for most people.
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elric



Joined: 24 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh. So having stuff on the Hard Drive is fine, but if its on an optical disc its bad?
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