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[forgesteel]

So, I am wondering, has anyone seen a good set of standards for the profession, along the lines of something readliy available in California.

Californa's documents:

On Learning to be accomplished in Kindergarten in Language Arts in California: http://www.cde.ca.gov/be/st/ss/engkindergarten.asp

On Professional Teaching Standards in California: http://www.cde.ca.gov/pd/ps/te/

The ESL standards doc's I've seen that seem to be applicable, but not totally useful: http://www.cal.org/eslstandards/

The ESL docs are much less detailed than I'd prefer. Maybe I am not looking deep enough? Or am I right, are these a bit thin on details?

Anyone have some links to round out my education on the topic?

Thanks in advance,

[SuperHero]

There really are no internation standards and unfortunately in Korea there are none which would explain the ESL cowboy phenomena that I have experienced at a couple of universities.

[OiGirl]

Of course there are international standards:
http://www.tesol.org/s_tesol/seccss.asp?CID=113&DID=1583
http://www.tesol.org/s_tesol/seccss.asp?CID=219&DID=1689

An example of state ESL standards:
http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/curriculum/esl/scos/

Voluntary national standards:
http://www.nbpts.org/candidates/guide/whichcert/09EarlyMiddleChildEnglish2004.html
http://www.nbpts.org/candidates/guide/whichcert/10EarlyYoungAdult2004.html

[SuperHero]

[forgesteel]

SuperHero makes a crucial point: EFL stuff really /is/ the preferable type of material I am looking for.

BTW, I don't need putative international standards, whatever those might be or amount to. More like standards of any kind that work for students and teachers in Asia would be nice. Also, I am generally more interested in /learning objectives/ than Professional Teaching Standards, as I have a pretty good idea of what makes a successful teacher.

The main idea I wanted to get across in the last post was the following: I wanted to show, by way of contrast, something like the following: Since the States in America have a relatively solid idea of what they are teaching, we know standards exist and are possible to post for everyone to see. But how about the standards (i.e. learning objectives and such) in Korea for teaching English? I can't say I really see or sense that any exist in Korea. I'd love to be proved wrong, as a little guidance would be really nifty right about now. Please someone, prove me wrong: show me some standards!

The dire end result of no standards, the way I see it, goes a little something like this: If there are no standards, how can there be any curriculum? If there is no curriculum, how can there be sensible lesson plans that amount to anything? If there are no lesson plans that are sensible, how can any learning take place?

Thanks in advance,

[Homer]