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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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 Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: British Anger At Zionist Terror Celebration |
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British Anger At Zionist Terror Celebration
By Ned Parker and Stephen Farrell
The commemoration of Israeli bombings that killing 92 people has caused offence
AS ISRAEL wages war against Hezbollah �terrorists� in Lebanon, Britain has protested about the celebration by right-wing Israelis of a Jewish �act of terrorism� against British rule 60 years ago this week.
The rightwingers, including Binyamin Netanyahu, the former Prime Minister, are commemorating the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, the headquarters of British rule, that killed 92 people and helped to drive the British from Palestine 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,173-2277717,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_Bombing |
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Captain Courageous
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Location: Bundang and loving it
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| While I fully support the State of Israel in their current endeavor, they pretty much invented modern terrorism, what with the Stern Gang, Irgun, etc. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't they get their ideas from those bomb-throwing Russian anarchists? |
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Captain Courageous
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Probably not, seeing as the bomb-throwing Russian Anarchists were Orthodox Christian Social Revolutionaries, and also killed Jews.
And all they ever did was just that: chuck bombs. The Israelis were much, much more organized. You don't need outside influence to know that throwing a bomb in any direction will result in your target exploding. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Courageous wrote: |
| they pretty much invented modern terrorism |
I heard they copied they copied Genghis khan and Vlad the impaler. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
What if 6 M of your countrymen were put in concentration camps and died because of their ethnicity- would you want to mark and remember it?
The English still harp on about WW2 and the Aericans about Vietnam. And that wasn't even genocide. Laying a wreath at the cenotaph? making melancholic vietnam war movies? wow they're really making a meal of it |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
What if 6 M of your countrymen were put in concentration camps and died because of their ethnicity- would you want to mark and remember it? |
Countrymen?
Honestly, what's more likely is that it all came about because the Zionists wanted a "racially-pure" Israel.
Would Israel even exist had not there been a "holocaust"?
Many say not. It helped provide the political impetus they had LONG sought.
Problem, reaction, solution  |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: |
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you make me sick.
Israel is like America...it has always had a system for joining, even you, as deranged as you are, could become Jewish and join the people of Israel.
In fact, Israel is arguably the first nation of people expressly non-racial.
Go to Israel and look at the rainbow of people that make up the Jewish state and flush your anti-semitism down the interior of your guitar.
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: yes |
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That number is a little off.
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| Smee wrote: |
| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
What if 6 M of your countrymen were put in concentration camps and died because of their ethnicity- would you want to mark and remember it?
The English still harp on about WW2 and the Aericans about Vietnam. And that wasn't even genocide. Laying a wreath at the cenotaph? making melancholic vietnam war movies? wow they're really making a meal of it |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: yes |
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So there are no jews of different colours?
Wrong!!
Also, different 'types' of jews need permission to marry from the Israeli government, that is, if they would like to marry interracially.
This is a fact. Do you need proof?
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you make me sick.
Israel is like America...it has always had a system for joining, even you, as deranged as you are, could become Jewish and join the people of Israel.
In fact, Israel is arguably the first nation of people expressly non-racial.
Go to Israel and look at the rainbow of people that make up the Jewish state and flush your anti-semitism down the interior of your guitar.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Also, different 'types' of jews need permission to marry from the Israeli government, that is, if they would like to marry interracially.
This is a fact. Do you need proof? |
That would be interesting to see. you got anything on that?
I did put your expresson or something like it into a google search I could not find anything like what you said but I this was one of the results.
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Friday June 11, 1999
Israeli-style 'mixed marriages' on upswing
NECHEMIA MEYERS
Bulletin Correspondent
REHOVOT, Israel -- Social worker Enatmar Hillel is still slightly embarrassed when she tells what happened to her several months ago, shortly after she and her lawyer husband had advertised in a Tel Aviv paper for someone to look after their children when both were at work.
The first job applicant she ushered into their apartment took one look at her and, seeing she was black, immediately asked: "Where is the lady of the house?" Though rather taken aback by the question, Enatmar smilingly replied: "I am the lady of the house."
Such misunderstandings are not unexpected, as the Ethiopian immigrants usually found in middle-class Israeli neighborhoods are apt to be scrubbing floors or weeding gardens. They are not -- as is the case with Enatmar -- partners in an interracial marriage.
When Enatmar Selam and Ari Hillel wed several years ago, the event was widely reported in the media: not only are marriages between Ethiopian immigrants and "white Israelis" unusual, but the Hillels are part and parcel of the Israeli elite.
Ari's father Shlomo, who has been awarded the Israel Prize, was an ambassador to several African countries, a member of the Israeli delegation to the United Nations, a minister in two governments and Speaker of the Knesset.
At the moment, however, the role he most values is that of grandfather to Noga and Ayelet, the lively daughters of Enatmar and Ari. While he accepts them unconditionally, of course, it would be an exaggeration to suggest that color prejudice is completely absent from Israeli society.
Officially, it is unacceptable. Unofficially, it exists.
That is certainly the impression of Morit Avraham, an Ashkenazic sabra whose husband, Ethiopian immigrant Naftali, is a graduate of Haifa's Technion-Israel Institute of Technology and an officer in the Israeli air force. When, for example, Morit went to pick up gas masks when a second Gulf War seemed imminent, the guard asked her why she wanted two. Pointing to her son Noam, who was standing at her side, she said one was for him.
"Oh, I didn't realize he was your son," the guard replied shamefacedly, "I guess he must be adopted."
Does social and economic integration lead to intermarriage, or is it the other way around? Tel Aviv University sociologist Yochanan Peres believes it is the former.
He points out that Enatmar and Ari would never have met, fallen in love and married had they not both attended Tel Aviv University.
One place where Ethiopian and Ashkenazic groups are unlikely to interact and intermarry is in the so-called development towns. Largely populated by Sephardic immigrants, most of those communities have never taken off, nor have they attracted people from European backgrounds. So there is little intermarriage in those communities except when a member of the second generation meets a soulmate while serving in Israel's coeducational army.
It is the army that was responsible for the fact that Mira and Shimon Lachani met, though they didn't meet within its ranks.
Mira, who grew up in the Tel Aviv area and is the daughter of Holocaust survivors from Poland, came to the Galilee development town of Kiryat Shmona during her army service working with the populace of that town. There she and her khaki-clad friends lived in a rundown neighborhood largely populated by Moroccan immigrants, including the Lachani family.
Nature took its course, causing some distress to Mira's family, who were less than enthusiastic about the fact that their daughter had fallen in love with a man whose parents had come from Morocco. They have since come to like Shimon, who is the manager of a large electronics factory in the Kiryat Shmona area.
Yet Shimon has not forgotten the initial failure to accept him, which he regards as typical of Ashkenazic Israelis.
He points out, for example, that many personal ads in Israeli newspapers highlight the fact that the would-be bride or groom has a "European background."
Moreover, Shimon still recalls the time when -- after being singled out as the outstanding soldier in his army unit -- the officers who came to congratulate him thought it worthy of note that "even a Moroccan" could be an excellent soldier.
Shimon has a high prestige job and a lovely home but he still believes the gap between Ashkenazic and Sephardic Israelis will remain for many years.
While many Moroccan immigrants and their offspring have a feeling Ashkenazic Israelis look down on them, that is not the case with people who came from Yemen, in the southwest corner of the Arabian desert.
They feel at least equal to the "Europeans" and are fiercely proud of their heritage.
Thus, even though Nachshon and Dorit Dagan of Rehovot were both born in Israel, Nachshon, a technician whose parents came here from Poland, defines himself as a sabra while Dorit, a bank clerk whose grandparents made the long trek from Yemen to the Holy Land, stubbornly insists she is a Yemenite. Her ethnic heritage is apparently so important to Dorit that the first man she married was also a Yemenite.
Moreover, her three sisters did the same. But none of the four marriages lasted, and when sisters remarried it was, in all cases, with Ashkenazim.
Nachshon's first wife was from an Ashkenazic family. But having left the kibbutz and come into contact with people from a variety of backgrounds, he fell for a Yemenite woman the second time around.
Dorit's family is more traditional than that of Nachshon. To make the family feel at ease when they visit, the Dagans keep a kosher home. But the Dagans do not attend synagogue and don't light candles on Friday night, which is a common practice among even minimally observant Israelis.
The only deep-seated disagreement between Dorit and Nachshon is in the political sphere: She supports right-wing parties and he gives his vote to the leftists.
Another couple, Limor and Ido, have yet to stand under a marriage canopy, mainly because Ido is still in uniform. But they've been sweethearts almost from the moment they met in a high school classroom, and they clearly plan to be together for the rest of their lives.
Though Limor's family is primarily of European origin while Ido's parents came from Mideastern countries, the young couple consider themselves sabras, pure and simple. Indeed, it seems strange to them that parents once bridled at the idea of cross-ethnic marriages.
"Today," says Ido, "most parents are only concerned about a potential spouse's character, not his or her ethnic origins. And among people of our generation, this is certainly the case."
Sociologist Peres reports some fascinating studies and statistics about integration under the chuppah.
*Some 24 percent of all Jewish marriages in Israel are "mixed," compared to less than 10 percent several decades ago. A random distribution of marriages would bring the figure for Sephardic-Ashkenazic matches up to 50 percent.
*The divorce rate for "mixed couples" is 24 percent, which is lower than the figure for pairs in which husband and wife are both Ashkenazic (30 percent) but higher than the rate of breakups among the "pure Sephardic" group (20 percent).
*Sociological studies show that children from "mixed" families are more popular and successful than other youngsters. Their multicultural background seems to prepare them for making friends with almost every kid in the schoolyard.
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/11423/edition_id/219/format/html/displaystory.html
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
That number is a little off.
| Junior wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
What if 6 M of your countrymen were put in concentration camps and died because of their ethnicity- would you want to mark and remember it?
The English still harp on about WW2 and the Aericans about Vietnam. And that wasn't even genocide. Laying a wreath at the cenotaph? making melancholic vietnam war movies? wow they're really making a meal of it |
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Yeah you got anything on that?
If you need help you could always go to David Irvings' or Ernst Zundel's websites  Just trying to help you out. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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I'm afriad the burden of proof lies with you on that one.
6,000,000 is the number that is widely accepted and taught in schools, but where is the proof?
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
That number is a little off.
| Junior wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
| Wow, they're really milking this whole Holocaust thing for all its worth. |
What if 6 M of your countrymen were put in concentration camps and died because of their ethnicity- would you want to mark and remember it?
The English still harp on about WW2 and the Aericans about Vietnam. And that wasn't even genocide. Laying a wreath at the cenotaph? making melancholic vietnam war movies? wow they're really making a meal of it |
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Yeah you got anything on that?
If you need help you could always go to David Irvings' or Ernst Zundel's websites Just trying to help you out. |
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