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Do strangers sneak up on you and grab your *beep*?
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Do strangers sneak up on you and grab your *beep*? Reply with quote

Cause that just happened to me. I was walking to the pc bang and I felt someone put their arms around my chest, grab my left boob, and rub. My first thought was that a co-worker had spotted me and was trying to play a joke on me, or that maybe a certain guy that I've been sleeping with lately saw me and was saying hi in a creative way.
So I was pretty surprised when I turned around and some guy in what looked like a school uniform start to run. I chased the little *beep* but he got away. It was on a busy street in a fairly major area of Ulsan at midnight.
What the hell?? I experienced a lot of harassment on the street in Canada, but I never actually had someone sneak up on me, wait until I walked into a darker part of the street behind a parked car, and grab me.
Actually, since my arrivial in Korea a month ago, I've noticed a lot of people staring at my chest. More than I have ever experienced elsewhere. They stare here, but unlike most other times, they don't look away when they see you noticing them.
The thing is, I can't hide my *beep* under baggy clothes either. They are too large in proportion to the rest of my body (yeah, I know, I'm gonna get some pretty stupid responses to that). Am I going to have to deal with this as long as I'm here? If so, that's fucked up and is probably going to seriously get to me after a while. It's already starting to. Is it just that they've never seen a a real life descent sized pair? Is this normal?
Has this happened to you?
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inkoreafornow



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Gyeonggido

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not female so I can't comment directly, but what I can say is that Koreans are incredibly curious little people. I have had grown men sneak up and pet my face, arms, and legs because I'm not a bald little boy like they are.

My worst expereince ever happened when I was going to the bathroom in Gangnam Station one day: I had this 70ish year old man (in a buissness suit no less) walk over, lean in, and stare directly at my junk Evil or Very Mad If he wouldn't have been so freaking old, I would have wizzed directly in his face.

As far as having to deal with this kind of stuff for your entire stay in Korea... most of my female friends with large breasts haven't told me about groppings but staring is constant. Crying or Very sad I just hope that this doesn't happen to you again... but, if it does happen again, I seriously hope you catch the guy next time.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 words: pepper spray.

Sorry you had to deal with that.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inkoreafornow wrote:
I'm not female so I can't comment directly, but what I can say is that Koreans are incredibly curious little people.


True. When they ask too many questions I tell 'em, "Curiosity killed the cat...and the Korean."

The last place I worked at, the parking/security ah-juh-sshi came and put the feel on another co-worker while we were outside at breaktime having a smoke. The guy actually came up from behind and grabbed him with both hands and stroked and said, "Ooooh...!" The stroking was done in the chest area...strange. Anyway, not a good thing to do to a boy from Detroit. BUT, after "What the f*ck are you f*uckin' doin' you slacked-assed, g0d-damned simple son-of-a-b1tchin' f*ckin mother-f*cker," cooler heads prevailed. At the same school I had many adult female students talk about being copped whenever we discussed topics laced with a discrete amount of perversion. One girl was shocked when she and others were at a dance/ceremony/nightclub/something and a bunch of middle school boys came in, felt them all up, and took off. I think it's done on a dare sometimes. Kind of like the "Tee-hee. Go 'Hello' foreigner to the say and then little giggle have a will we" phenomenon. Next time, punch the little perv in the back of the head.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That kind of stuff sems more. . tolerated here than in the west. I've never had it happen on the street, but one or twice in the subway, yeah.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the other day I was worried about being accused of it.

I got on the train early in the morning and it was CROWDED. So much so, that not everyone waiting to get on could (no matter how much shoving).

Anyways, I have my bag in one hand (business type breif Razz ) and my water bottle in the other. After quite a few minutes of being smushed into the girl in front of me I realized that y water bottle might be giving her the wrong idea.

Instead, I opted to hold on to a handle with that hand and, well, that didn't help much cuz we were still pressed. I felt like a dummy but at least she wasn't some hairy ajjumma.
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ubum



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Gwangju

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, I��m a guy. But, I��ve had people grab my stomach or arms while having a conversation about weight loss or working out, but these were all people that I��ve had multiple conversations with. Pepper spray might be a good option, hell I would have grabbed the little shit and slapped him around a little if I was you and caught him.

But guys looking at your chest; hell I can��t help you. I��m a boob guy myself but I don��t go around staring at every pair that passes me. Well, not usually.
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ubum



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Gwangju

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RachaelRoo

By the way, what city do you live in?
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

she lives in ULsan. She mentions it in her post.
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Free World



Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Drake Hotel

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ubum wrote:
RachaelRoo

By the way, what city do you live in?

Quote:
It was on a busy street in a fairly major area of Ulsan at midnight.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the west: white men watch j-porn and think all Asian women are submissive.

In the east: Korean men watch western porn and think all white women are over sexed, easy, and sexually aggressive.

Most Korean men don't have much dealings with white women outside of pornography and russian prostitutes. It's easy for them to form the belief all white women are the same.
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cutebecca



Joined: 08 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am not big, and it's still happened to me several times. twice it happened on the street and a few times in the subway. it's almost always middle-aged or old men. they pretend to just bump into me, but there is definite grabbing and squeezing. the older ones put on a dumb smile afterwards and scurry away, the younger ones avert their eyes.

it pisses me off. i don't dress provacatively, and i dont make eye contact with them. and im not blond or tall, so i dont think im mistaken for a russian. and in my korean language class, we havent yet learned the dialogue for telling off ajoshis who touch our boobies.

i know two korean women who have had problems with men sqeezing their butts in the subway. both of them told off the men. one of them told me that when she was screaming at the men, all the women just ignored it. it's common here and no one says anything. my friends behavior was considered shameful, and the men stuck together in defense of the butt-grabber who exclaimed " i didn't do it."

i call it curiousity when an adjumma trys to touch my breast in a bath-house. it's perverted when an ajoshi sqeezes my breast for kicks.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not female, so it's hard to imagine the feeling I might have in that situation, but I will say that it is probably the most that guy will ever get from a white woman. A cheap feel.

Considering the extreme preoccupation people seem to have with body image, plastic surgery and dieting here (case in point: WELL BEING) it doesn't surprise me that people will gaze at your more prominent features. If you are fat, they will talk about it. If you are strong, they will say "Oh tough guy, Arnold Schwartzenegger"

I'd say that about 70% of my female students have mentioned an experience with overt perversion in public, be it a flasher outside of their middle school, a guy staring up their skirt, men pleasuring themselves in a coffee shop, etc...

A lot of Korean men mention that women have a lot of power these days, but I think in the long run, Korea is truly a man's world, and they can get away with a lot of things. I think it's best for a woman just to keep some poise and confidence and be ready to take shit. Carry a paddle or something.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kind of thing seems to happen to women fairly new to Korea more often. Once you've been here a while, women seem to develop both an awarness of the potential for such situations, and a vague " don't mess with me" vibe that puts off most pervs.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>My first thought was that a co-worker had spotted me and was trying to play a joke on me,

Interesting school you must work in if co-workers do things like this! I play practical jokes from time to time, but this seems a little much..

Sorry to hear that this has happened.

Ken:>
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