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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: New PC or Laptop wanted! Reply with quote

I just moved to Seoul. I'm looking for a reliable and fairly high speed computer. Preferably a Plll high end please. English windows would be preferable. Please Pm me. Thanks
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a new computer, you're looking for a Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon 64 computer. You can get a decent computer for 800,000 or so. High end would be closer to 1,200,000, maybe more. Not including monitor.

Top stuff?

AMD 64 x2 CPU 4800+ 890,000
2 GeForce 7800 video cards (to utilize PCI-e SLI) ASUS branded, of course 858,000
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium motherboard 215,000
2 Seagate SATA Hard Drives 120 GB each (they have to be the same kind of drives to optimize RAID) 168,000
4 gigs of RAM ... DDR Corsair 1G PC3200 VS * 4 = 460,000
Power supply 100,000?
Case 50,000?
... am I forgetting anything?

total 2,741,000

Figure out what you need (you probably won't need a W 2,750,000 computer), price it out on http://pc.danawa.com
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pangit...dammmmmmmnnn that is a sweet ride. What's it called? Skynet by cyberdyne systems?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
Pangit...dammmmmmmnnn that is a sweet ride. What's it called? Skynet by cyberdyne systems?


Yeah. Nicer than mine by 2 gigs of ram and one video card. Of course, only half as good with the drives. . .

Without buying a deified computer, you could get a pretty good 32-bit machine for a good price at Yongsan.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"TOS" - Total Overkill Systems

Wink

I have a feeling that the OP is a bit behind on the current state of things in some tech areas? A "PIII high end" really doesn't exist.

You should really outline a few things in your post; what do you want to do with the machine being first.

The above systems are wonderful, but for a great many users, over the top. Cutting-edge costs big bucks, so best to stay 1 incarnation behind. Dual-core will be cheap like borsch soon enough, and a pair of 7800s would be too much for much right now. Buy them when the 7900s come out.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pangit wrote:
If you want a new computer, you're looking for a Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon 64 computer. You can get a decent computer for 800,000 or so. High end would be closer to 1,200,000, maybe more. Not including monitor.

Top stuff?

AMD 64 x2 CPU 4800+ 890,000
2 GeForce 7800 video cards (to utilize PCI-e SLI) ASUS branded, of course 858,000
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium motherboard 215,000
2 Seagate SATA Hard Drives 120 GB each (they have to be the same kind of drives to optimize RAID) 168,000
4 gigs of RAM ... DDR Corsair 1G PC3200 VS * 4 = 460,000
Power supply 100,000?
Case 50,000?
... am I forgetting anything?

total 2,741,000

Figure out what you need (you probably won't need a W 2,750,000 computer), price it out on http://pc.danawa.com


I think a much better (re. for normal use) system would be something like this....

MB: ASUS A8N-E - 108.000
CPU: AMD 64 3000+ - 162.000
RAM: DDR Corsair 1G (512x2) - 138.000
HDD: Maxtor 160GB 8MB - 87.000
ODD: Sony DVD+-RW DL - 63.000
VGA: GeForce 6800 256MB - 330.000
FDD: Any - 10.000
Case, Power, etc: 150.000

Total: 1 million and some change.

and pangit, you did forget the ODD. Of course, if you're not lookin for top-line, I've priced out several computers using 2.0GHz Celerons and Semperons that are good for every-day use but not super-powered systems for 500.000 or less.

KPRROK
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:

I think a much better (re. for normal use) system would be something like this....

MB: ASUS A8N-E - 108.000
CPU: AMD 64 3000+ - 162.000
RAM: DDR Corsair 1G (512x2) - 138.000
HDD: Maxtor 160GB 8MB - 87.000
ODD: Sony DVD+-RW DL - 63.000
VGA: GeForce 6800 256MB - 330.000
FDD: Any - 10.000
Case, Power, etc: 150.000

Total: 1 million and some change.

and pangit, you did forget the ODD. Of course, if you're not lookin for top-line, I've priced out several computers using 2.0GHz Celerons and Semperons that are good for every-day use but not super-powered systems for 500.000 or less.

KPRROK


ODD - How could I forget?

I was fixating on the term "high-end" used by the OP when I was pricing those parts.

I'd suggest the same setup as kprrok if one was looking for a decent enough computer, although I'd suggest two hard drives instead of one so that you can put them in RAID0 configuration for better performance, RAID1 if you're paranoid about drive failures.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you're really just looking for an economical system (while sticking with Samsung as much as possible like some of my Korean friends, one of which actually ordered a system very close to this one), you could look at this set-up...

MB: Asus P4P800E-Deluxe - 108.000
CPU: Intel Celeron D 315 Prescot (2.13Ghz) - 61.000
RAM: DDR Samsung PC3200 256M (x2) - 48.000
HDD: Samsung S-ATA 160GB - 88.000
ODD: Samsung DVD+-RW TS552B - 47.000
VGA: ATI Radeon X300 128mb - 75.000
FDD: Samsung 3.5" - 9.000
Case (w/ Power): ASUS TA-212 (A-36F 360w) - 75.000

Total: 511.000 won

Bear in mind, you can save money by getting the slightly cheaper motherboard (about 20.000) or by getting a Combo ODD (10.000) or not needing the FDD. Or you can spend a bit more for a gig of RAM. But that's a basic system that should be good for just about the normal stuff...e-mail, watching DVDs, downloading stuff, etc.

Obviously, not good for gaming, but you haven't mentioned if you want to do that, so i assumed not.

KPRROK
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muggie2dammit



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Location: Ilsan, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
And if you're really just looking for an economical system (while sticking with Samsung as much as possible like some of my Korean friends),

RAM: DDR Samsung PC3200 256M (x2) - 48.000
HDD: Samsung S-ATA 160GB - 88.000
ODD: Samsung DVD+-RW TS552B - 47.000
FDD: Samsung 3.5" - 9.000


I pity the poor folks who buy Samsung memory because it's a good Korean product. To be honest, most of the memory chips used in the mid-high end modules are Samsung or Hynix, but they're the best ones. Samsung and Hynix sell of the top end at a premium, the midrange at normal prices, and use the crap that they can't otherwise sell to build their own name brand stuff for the Korean market. Horrible latencies, lower speeds, all they have going for them is reliability.
Samsung TCCD and TCC5 memory modules have a very good reputation, some running at PC3200 or higher speeds with 2-2-2-6 timings, but you'll never see them in Samsung memory modules, because Koreans can be fooled into buying modules with timings of 3-3-3-8 or worse simply because of the brand name.
Samsung hard drives are quiet. They're also relatively low-performance. Reliable though. Samsung DVD-writers are overpriced for their performance, but they're reliable. The Samsung floppy drives, on the other hand, are good. Low performance means very little with floppy drives, which are inherently slow. Reliability is more important.
Basically, Samsung does reliable but slow computer products. Great for business, and for normal office applications. Bad for gamers and people who want to get good performance from _all_ their components.
I've used Samsung-branded products before - never again.

Muggie2
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