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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: IP changes ... ? Reply with quote

I'm wondering whether anyone out there monitors their IP address ?
Something you might do if you run a server.

I'm particularly interested in the turnover rate of IP's from the KT ISP. But also interested in other rates, mainly out of curiosity.

So, how long do you get to rent your IP for, before they yank it off you and replace it with another ????

cheers,
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ejmlab



Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: IP Reply with quote

Last year when I was with KT I think the lease was for a minute. If you type fast you can grab it by entering it into the manual area. Then just don't shut down and you can keep it for a long time. Or if you have a wifi router or really any router you might be able to grab it and enter it manually into your router which is always on. Give it a try.

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Giant



Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ejmlab, I am not sure what you are talking about... I am with KT on a VDSL connection and I keep the same IP for days if not weeks before it changes. Of course I never turn my modem off either. If you do turn your modem off everyday then you will get a new IP every day as well.

If you do want to run your own server at home like I do then use a free dynamic ip monitor app like www.no-ip.com.
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,

I'm using the www.dyndns.com service as it is, but I just learned that they actually have a pay service that lets you install some software that updates their dns servers for your own domain whenever your ip changes.

So in otherwords you can use www.myserver.com instead of www.myserver.dyndns.com. It sounds fairly cool, but they say that the latency might be a couple of secs/mins. I want to know how often my ip changes because a few secs/mins every couple of days is no big deal, but every hour or so would be kinda annoying.

My KT ip hasn't changed for about 36hrs now, so I guess that'll do nicely Cool
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
So in otherwords you can use www.myserver.com instead of www.myserver.dyndns.com. It sounds fairly cool, but they say that the latency might be a couple of secs/mins.


Unless they invented a new Internet while I was sleeping, IP changes can take up to two days before most of the Internet will be updated correctly. While the thirteen master lists update in minutes of each other, most ISP cache domain names in local registeries which do not update nearly as frequently (with some going as long as a week).

When a friend of mine moved his server in Califnornia, it took six hours for KT here to update their domain name registery to point in the correct direction.

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I want to know how often my ip changes because a few secs/mins every couple of days is no big deal, but every hour or so would be kinda annoying.


I run a server off a dynamic IP in my apartment. Generally it used to be static for days on end, but in recent months as traffic has spiked my IP has been on random rotation for reason unknown.
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Giant



Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Gord

Since the name stays the same, it can take just minutes to update.

You are thinking when you change the name, it takes days to update DNS. But anyway, www.no-ip.com lets you download an app that will monitor your ip and update their DNS records. It works very well and does not take days to update the new IP, so I get no interuption.
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ejmlab



Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Ip change Reply with quote

Giant,

I'm not sure why your setup was different from mine. When I initially signed up with KT years ago on ADSL the IP would only renew with a system reboot. But last year when I had an account with KT the lease was only 1 minute. Perhaps it was the plan I was on or the modem configuration. Since it was a KT modem I coudn't reconfigure it so I'd just wait for a new lease and then quickly enter it into manual settings and then I'd be good to go for as long as my machine was up and running. With a reboot it would try to grab the manually assigned IP and succeed if it was available. If the IP had been already grabbed from the pool then I'd have to return to DHCP, recieve a new lease and manually add it. Pain in the arse.

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Giant



Joined: 14 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand what you are saying. Dynamic IP is a pain in the but. But for me my address uses a hostname.no-ip.com and thats fine with me.
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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While the thirteen master lists update in minutes of each other, most ISP cache domain names in local registeries which do not update nearly as frequently (with some going as long as a week).

That's actually a good point thanks Gord, I hadn't thought about it. It seems that the usual TTL for a nameserver cache is 24hrs. Sounds like KT do things more slowly than most.
I want this server to be facing the world, so KT's policies don't bother me as much. I wonder whether there is some BIND method to force the nameserver to go to do a lookup from the source computers ??
If there isn't then there should be. I'll ask the guys over at dyndns what they have to say about it.
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