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Genetics: Oh, god! Don't tell the Koreans!!

 
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Genetics: Oh, god! Don't tell the Koreans!! Reply with quote

While this is obvious given the geographic issue involved, the genetic mapping of the Japanese reveals....

.........drum roooooooooooooooooollllllllllll.....

The Japanese are most closely related to the Korean population, having come mainly through Korea!! WHAT a surprise...

But this will only inflate the egos of Koreans, so....

It does help explain why the Japanese and Koreans have such a twisted relationship: they're Kissin' Cousins! Hatfields and McCoys! (Also helps explain why some Koreans and Japanese, especially youngish adult women, look nearly identical. 'Course, that was my first clue how closely related they are genetically.)

Tough reading, but if you zoom through the body a bit to pick up some terms, the conclusion is a little clearer. Or maybe it's the other way around. EDIT: should add, it actually ends up providing a rather good account of the populating of pretty much all of Asia, so if you are into genetic mapping....

http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/full/14/10a/1832

Um.... no reason to post this except I'm interested in genetics and happened on the article.


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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually read that in a Korean newspaper - a Korean research team found the same thing. Trust me, they don't mind.

My post has been deleted though. Hope it saved somebody a few cents.
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
I actually read that in a Korean newspaper - a Korean research team found the same thing. Trust me, they don't mind.

My post has been deleted though. Hope it saved somebody a few cents.


Actually, it was the other way around that I meant it: that Koreans would say, "See! They came from us!" But it was all said in fun (poking a little at the Korea vs. Japan thingy), except for those actually interested in genetics, in which case it's fascinating.

This one is easier to understand:

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/19/10/1737
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rapier



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that was already common knowledge???

It would seem that a migrating people would cross the sea at the nearest point. ie, japanese people were falways far more likely to have originated from the closest mainland source, Korea, rather than got there by rafts from Iceland.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, we're speaking of cavemen which are only one contributing branch of the modern Korean gene pool.
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funplanet



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and they all come from somewhere deep in China proper...Mongols, Chin (and all the other ethnic gene pools of China), and God only knows what else....they ain't pure blooded!!!! they're just like Europeans and Americans....a genetic mix
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tomato



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that the current-day Koreans and Japanese lived together at a time when Korea and Japan was all one land mass.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



It started in Africa...as you know..

Below, a member of Africa's oldest known people

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Wishmaster



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the ol' "pure blood" and "unified people" claims. Got new for the K-people...you are a part of the Asian genetic pool. And it all started in China(possibly pre-dated by Africa). Forget this notion of purity because your country has been invaded and conquered many times...you don't think there was some mixing going on? Yeah...damn straight that people ain't gonna be pure for 5,000 odd years..........KFD
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Dispatched



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A student of mine told me Koreans in the south west of the country, particularly on the coast, looked a lot more similar to the Japanese than Koreans further north. Can't say I've ever noticed... don't all Asians look the same...? Wink
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the heart of the Korea/Japan thing that the Japanese don't acknowledge Korea as their senior?
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