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The Sweetest Word Is Somebody's English Name?
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: The Sweetest Word Is Somebody's English Name? Reply with quote

They say that the sweetest word that one can hear is their own name. So, how do Koreans feel when we calll them with English names not even remotely sounding like their Korean names?

Hi! My name is Su-jin, but please call me Emily. You people out there don't find this weird?

The reason for this name-changing is apparently because Korean names are unpronounceable to English teachers. I think that's just rubbish. It's laziness on the part of the foreign teacher.

The whole thing makes as much sense as me walking into a classroom and saying. Hi! I'm Peter, but please call me Sung-hyun.

My new group of students already have English names from the previous foreign teacher, but I refuse to use them. If some Korean given names are tough at times, I'll ask the students to help me say them.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least post your tripe in the right forum.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One reason Western names are used by some Koreans, with Westerners, is that there is not the same social apprehension with using them as with their Korean given names. At the same time, many Westerners have Korean names they were given or adopted; I have one I received twenty-three years ago, but it is seldom used.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i completely agree with the OP. i have absolutely no problem with korean names and i think any westerner in korea who can't remember two short syllables is either lazy or dumb. and even if our pronunciation isn't perfect, do korean people pronounce our names correctly? i would rather have someone mangle my name slightly than actually call me something completely different.
when i met japanese, africans, russians, etc. etc., none of them ever said 'hi, my name is sally/dave/whatever', so why should koreans have to change either? i think its basic politeness to remember a person's name when you make their acquaintance, and that goes for any country.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a lot of Koreans that like their western name and preferred to be called by their western name. If they didn't want to be called their name, they wouldn't say "you can call me Peter." They would say, "I like to be called Mr. Kim."

When I was in elementary school, we studied Native Americans and got Native American names. Mine was "white cloud." It was fun. Maybe Koreans get the same joy out of being called "Tom" or "Manuel."
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Peter Jackson



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Names Reply with quote

I had no problems with Korean names when I worked at my last hagwon. Of course I only had six students in a class and I saw them 3 to 4 times a week. I work in a public high school now, where classes are around 30 students. I only see each class once a week and have had several classes cancelled, weeks off for exams and holidays, and I have had a hard time trying to learn their names. In the senior class, their Korean English teacher gave them all nicknames, some of them quite funny, and the students loved them. I must admit, it did make it easier to remember them and I would call them by both their real names and nicknames.

The other classes only had their real names. I find girls names harder to recall because they sound similar. And with their uniforms, similar haircuts, nearly identical glasses, and similar giddy personalities I still struggle.

But in a hagwon: no excuse for not learning their names.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first came to Korea, I was not fast at reading hangul, so I had the students write their names using the English alphabet.

This is actually a good exercise for them because they need to get used to it for their future travels (such as when they write out customs forms in foreign countries).
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see over 400 students I can't remember all their names. English or otherwiser.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to call Koreans by their real names. When people introduce themselves with an English name---or worse yet, by "Kim"---it's not only insulting but disingenuous (sp?).
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer calling Koreans by the exact English translation of their names (when possible).

"Oh, Riverside-Pearl -- would you fax this invoice for me, please?"
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Sweetest Word Is Somebody's English Name? Reply with quote

Dev wrote:

The whole thing makes as much sense as me walking into a classroom and saying. Hi! I'm Peter, but please call me Sung-hyun.


Then the students would only have one name to remember. We have hundreds to remember, and if you're not Korean, all those names are completely alien to our memory cells and, therefore, incredibly difficult to remember. Names like Mike, Lisa, etc. are names that my brain has been hearing all its life. Without that, I'd have a heck of a time remembering all 200+ of my students' names.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: The Sweetest Word Is Somebody's English Name? Reply with quote

SirFink wrote:

Then the students would only have one name to remember. We have hundreds to remember, and if you're not Korean, all those names are completely alien to our memory cells and, therefore, incredibly difficult to remember.


Especially when it seems like every Korean has one name which starts with ㅅ or a ㅈ. I've got 선, 상, 수, 서, 소, 순, 성, 슬 and 지, 진, 준, 재 coming out of my ears. And I'm in a small school.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: The Sweetest Word Is Somebody's English Name? Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
It's laziness on the part of the foreign teacher.


My school has a strict policy about this, and while I don't particularly agree with it, the students seem to get a kick out of it so I see no reason to rock the boat.

Outside of work I call people whatever they want to be called, but if someone insists on me calling them by an English nickname they can never, ever expect me to remember their real name. I only have enough room in my memory for one name per person.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone back and forth a lot on this. These days I just ask what they want to be called and call them that. A lot of time the name changes as I get to know them better.

I think a lot of Koreans feel like their Korean identity is threatened by learning English, so they invent English identities to cope. Yet another reason why they struggle with it, and why their usage is so shallow.

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I prefer calling Koreans by the exact English translation of their names (when possible).

"Oh, Riverside-Pearl -- would you fax this invoice for me, please?"


I love doing this too, mostly because I have a friend called "Slowly Wise and Beautiful".
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard the nickname is often the Christian name, and they prefer this, usually only hearing their real name from family.
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