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My Co-Worker is Always Down Range

 
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yakey



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: My Co-Worker is Always Down Range Reply with quote

"Down Range" is the jargon used by the American military for the nightclubs outside of Camp Casey in Dongducheon, north of Uijeongbu. Anyway, one of my mates got himself an apartment across the street from "Down Range," also know as "The Ville." It's like mini-Itaewon, suit shops, a few restaurants, but mostly dancing girl juicy bars. Anyway, my co-worker is tossing away his paycheck in these "Down Range" clubs and he looks kind of up and down, happy when re-living his night "Down Range," then kind of sad thinking about bills and his bank balance. Any advice for my co-worker? I think this becomes almost like an addiction. I've heard stories of soldiers going broke on their "juicy girl" habit. One part of me wants to tell this guy to stay out of these joints, but another part of me says it's his life and it's none of my business. What's your take?

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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest you save your money, make a good life for yourself, and just hope that he learns from his own experience. In the worst situation, he will slowly sink into depression and spend a lot of time here trying to make ends meet. Otherwise, maybe he'll wake up.

What can you really do without coming across as a babysitter? It's best to set an example. His choice to follow it.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, what djsmnc said- do something else at the time he would normally be spunking all his cash and invite him along. Bottom line though- it's his money
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a soldier in a past life, I saw alot of my co-workers at the time go broke or even worse by hanging out "down range".
But from my experience, if you talk to him, there is a slight possibility that he might not listen and possibly get pissed that you might interfere in his free time.
I'm sorry to say this, but he might have to learn on his own about the mistake he's making.
Sure, it will turn your gut inside out to watch him spiral downhill, but he's an adult and must be responsible for his own actions. And sometimes it takes a painful experience to make someone see something isn't/wasn't right to begin with.

I have known some guys who married "juicy girls" and took them back to the states, only to have them do the same stuff there that they did here.

It's not the material for a "cinderella" story, not even "pretty woman", trying to pick them up and make them good again.

I think in the end, he might get burned--- royally Neutral
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make an effort to invite him when you go out so he might have a bit of a social life. Maybe that will cut down on the empty hole that he tries to fill with girls and drinking. Not really your problem but kindness in the form of trying to get him involved with normal people who have normal lives is about all you can do.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: My Co-Worker is Always Down Range Reply with quote

yakey wrote:
...another part of me says it's his life and it's none of my business. What's your take?


Unless he asks you for advice, then it's none of your business.

Until that day comes, if you want to invite him out with you because he's cool to hang out with, then that's a great motive. If you want to invite him out with you to "save" him, then that's not a great motive.

People should be free to do whatever they want, including living that kind of lifestyle, and especially living without unsolicited but well-meaning advice.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's an adult... stay out of it.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
He's an adult... stay out of it.


What he said. Nothing worse than some wowser on a do gooder trip
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was so looking forward to a thread about farting.
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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Location: In My Skin

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must be hard to watch a train wreck about to happen....it's a normal human reaction to want to pull someone up when they are down.....however, there is nothin that you can do that will be effective enough to stop his destiny. The only thing you can do is detach yourself from the situtation.....
Probably not the answer you want to hear....kinda like how any answer you have he won't want to hear....the truth hurts until you accept it......
Good Luck, Bud
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mercury



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Heart and soul of change...........


He seems to be having too much fun at the moment. So the positive "rewards" are going to out weigh the "negative". If you bother him it will make him want to hang out there EVEN MORE, sort of like a nagging wife trying to get her husband to stop drinking. As time goes on, and the negative rewards surpass the positive, he will begin the idea of changing in his head. It might take some kind of bad event, but believe me, he will have a big problem sooner or later, and this is where the motivation for change will come from. Just wait out the storm..........
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Red



Joined: 05 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
He's an adult... stay out of it.

I also agree with this. Sometimes people are so determined to self-destruct that the only thing you can do is get out of the range of the shrapnel.
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yakey



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Update: He got beat up the other night Reply with quote

He was at a bar last week and got beat up. Some people never learn.

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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
i was so looking forward to a thread about farting.


ditto, but a hijack about farting is even better. I needed this laugh today.
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