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Do you actually like living here?
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Do you like living in Korea?
I really like Korea and life here and enjoy my experiences
23%
 23%  [ 26 ]
Life here is pretty good, despite occasional annoyances
51%
 51%  [ 58 ]
I have good and bad days when the people drive me crazy
16%
 16%  [ 19 ]
I grit my teeth and bear it; lately I wonder why the #&$ I'm here
6%
 6%  [ 7 ]
I loathe this dump and would leave today for a good job elsewhere
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 112

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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Do you actually like living here? Reply with quote

This is the sort of poll question-- again-- that could either die quickly, or become a fight between the if-you-don't-like-it-leave type and the Korea-haters. But I feel philosophical today. And to my knowledge, no one has (at least recently) actually come out and posed this question.

Do you actually like living here as a teacher (or other); or do you simply tolerate it? I'm curious.

Ken:>


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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far the results seem positive.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good poll question, I don't think I've ever seen it here before.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said in another thread.....Korea has been good to me. I won't say it's a great country but it's a country that's been good to me.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't lived at home for an extended period in several years, so I'm pretty settled down here. Just rearranged the furniture and now the apartment's finally getting functional so I'm in a good mood.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is a decent place to live. Certainly, there are things here that are completely illogical and mind-boggling. However, there are a fair amount of pluses. The goal is to have a long-term plan and realize that you won't be doing the ESL thing forever.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There definitely is a lot of good things...cheap food and entertainment. Great transportation for travelling around Korea. Shorter working days than most of us would have back home.

Too bad the job situation at some of the hagwons isn't so great.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like it a lot. 'apologist' and proud, baby!
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea for me is Seoul/Gyeonggi do because that's where I spend the majority of my time.

I used to love the place, now I like it but with an increasing intolerance creeping in. I imagine if I stayed a few more years I'd come to hate it? Why?

I think probably because of a combination of a few things

    When you have been here long enough and get a good insight on the political/economic/judicial systems the more you learn ho it is rotting within through incompetance, corruption, nepotism and greed.

    I have a young son and a significant minority of Koreans have scant regard to 'his' safety. They do things without regard to people around them and by default place my son at risk. For example I was in Olympic Park yesterday and I had to scamper to scope up my son who was on a walking path because some middle aged man had ordered Chinese food to be delivered and the restaurant obliged by sending out one of those lunatic motorbike delivery boys to the park. Getting to the park was dangerous enough , one of those cardboard ladies decided to haul across her massive cart across the road around a blind corner in front of an off-ramp to a bridge. I missed her by inches but if we had hit her cart full on we would have surely crashed.

    Traffic jams abound and are slowly driving me insane. I went to some island last weekend which was about 80 km's from my apartment. It took 2.5 hours to get there, and 4.5 hours to return MADNESS.

    THe fact that the nearest swimmable beach is about 160 km away is a bummer (2.5 hours - 10 hours of driving time).

    Teacher wages in my opinion are peanuts (I know this is subjective but like I said before it depends on where you are coming from, if you've never had a job before then this is heaven but for many of us who had successful jobs it isn't a hell of a lot).

    The air pollution is getting worse and I hate the stuff.

    Unless you are wealthy like apparently Jongno Guru is and can live in a large house of your own, you have to live in an apartment and for me apartment living is a step down from living in a tent.


Fortunately I have an exit strategy and am happy to be leaving at the end of this year while I still have some positive thoughts on Korea.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
As I said in another thread.....Korea has been good to me. I won't say it's a great country but it's a country that's been good to me.

My thoughts exactly and now with the new F2 visa system - I'm pretty much set up perfectly.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not good, not bad, just where I happen to be
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sucked a$$, until I met friends, then it became awesome. Now, I'm looking around for year 2.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had more days where I hated Korea than liked Korea I would leave. Life's to short to be stuck in a place you hate/
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
If I had more days where I hated Korea than liked Korea I would leave. Life's to short to be stuck in a place you hate/


Amen.

I like Korea. I wish I was there now. Overall the country annoys me and ticks me off real good with their negative views of women, foreigners, law enforcement, respect for others, etc, but I really like the individual people there and have had many good experiences as well as some bad ones. Haven't tried working for a Korean company there though, and I always lived in US Government housing, so perhaps I am not the best one to comment here.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fidel wrote:
Korea for me is Seoul/Gyeonggi do because that's where I spend the majority of my time.

I used to love the place, now I like it but with an increasing intolerance creeping in. I imagine if I stayed a few more years I'd come to hate it? Why?

I think probably because of a combination of a few things

(1)
    When you have been here long enough and get a good insight on the political/economic/judicial systems the more you learn ho it is rotting within through incompetance, corruption, nepotism and greed.

    (2) I have a young son and a significant minority of Koreans have scant regard to 'his' safety. They do things without regard to people around them and by default place my son at risk. For example I was in Olympic Park yesterday and I had to scamper to scope up my son who was on a walking path because some middle aged man had ordered Chinese food to be delivered and the restaurant obliged by sending out one of those lunatic motorbike delivery boys to the park. Getting to the park was dangerous enough , one of those cardboard ladies decided to haul across her massive cart across the road around a blind corner in front of an off-ramp to a bridge. I missed her by inches but if we had hit her cart full on we would have surely crashed.

    (3) Traffic jams abound and are slowly driving me insane. I went to some island last weekend which was about 80 km's from my apartment. It took 2.5 hours to get there, and 4.5 hours to return MADNESS.

    (4) THe fact that the nearest swimmable beach is about 160 km away is a bummer (2.5 hours - 10 hours of driving time).

    (5) Teacher wages in my opinion are peanuts (I know this is subjective but like I said before it depends on where you are coming from, if you've never had a job before then this is heaven but for many of us who had successful jobs it isn't a hell of a lot).

    (6) The air pollution is getting worse and I hate the stuff.

    (7) Unless you are wealthy like apparently Jongno Guru is and can live in a large house of your own, you have to live in an apartment and for me apartment living is a step down from living in a tent.


(Cool Fortunately I have an exit strategy and am happy to be leaving at the end of this year while I still have some positive thoughts on Korea.



(numbers are mine)

I am a little confused, so maybe you can clear this up for me? If you live in a big city (as you say, Seoul, Gyeonggi do is Korea for you) then where in the West do numbers 1-7 NOT apply? In any big city in Canada or America you will experience these. You could say "well I plan to live in a small place when I go back." You could do that here too. There are some smallish towns (by Korean standards) that still have a lot of Western style anemities.

Anyway as regards number 8 have a good one! Will you still visit this board from time to time, or do you think you'll put it all behind you?
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