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cubanlord · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!

I have been going to a PC room for some time now (roughly 1 month). The laptop i use will not run the games I play (command and conquer generals zero hour and Quake 4). I figure if I build my own cpu, it will eventually pay itself off. What do you guys think about ordering from Yongsan online? I was looking to do the cpu that way (order components and build it myself).

I am looking at

P4 3ghz
1 gig stick of 4200 ddr2
Geforce 6800GT
Asus board
450watt power supply
dual tower fans
dvd writer combo

for roughly $1000. Let me know.

Thunndarr · Joined: 30 Sep 2003

I'd just say consider an AMD chip. They've got a bit more bang for the buck with games.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Mr. Pink · Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China

I went with 2 gigs of ram...I probably should have gone 4 gigs. My last computer had 1gig and it wasn't enough.

Wrench · Joined: 07 Apr 2005

chiaa · Joined: 23 Aug 2003

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

chiaa · Joined: 23 Aug 2003

No, I disagree with:

"You disagree that off-the-shelf computers have very competitve prices compared to building your own machine? "

I have built eight computers in the past nine months and repaired numerous others. So please take your head out of your ass and do not assume that people are as ignorant about computers as you. Any person can build a computer with a little effort and google. I am by no means an expert. When I first started building them and installing operating systems I had to head to a PC room and print out instructions/trouble shooting webpages/forum threads several times. It's how you learn.

Gord · Joined: 25 Feb 2003

chiaa · Joined: 23 Aug 2003

Here is why:

I took a random (a three minute search) pre-built from bb.co.kr It is one of their "Hit" computers, which means a lot of them are selling right now. This is a name brand pre-built, not a Johnny Computer pre-built which would be the same as you or me building one.

Specs of pre-built:

Celeron 3.06MHZ
DDR 256 MB PC3200.
160 GB 7200 RPM Samsung.
Video card: intel extreme graphics 2(??? on board i assume)
MB: No brand to be found.
Sound: on the MB.
DVD/CDR combo

All for the low price of 637.930 (if you pay cash)

Let's see what I can build for that money.

Wink

Chiaa's special:
Processor: Sempron 3100 110.000 Won
MB: K8N4-E 90.000 Won
RAM: DDR 512MB PC3200 we will take two for a total of 88.000
HDD: Same HD as prebuilt: 80.000
Sound card: Audigy 2 2005 77.000 (even though the MB I picked has on board 5.1 sound).
Video card: Radeon 9600 MOBILITY LP (128MB) 63.000
DVD/CDR Combo: 35.000 (various brands available in this price range)
Keyboard, mouse, tower, power supply and other misc.: 100.000 (on the high side)

Total 643.000

The difference:

4X the Ram
A real video card
A real sound card.
Actually able to upgrade.
You can fit your hands in the case on work on it when needed (wont have to remove three parts to add ram like you usually have to with those stupid pre-builts).
A BIOS that is not a piece of shit.
Same price.

For the pre-built and the Chiaa special I did little to no research on the products choosen. I wrote this whole thing up in a matter of 15 minutes. I make no claim that the chiaa special is the computer that anyone should get, I just took the most popular products for each computer part. I would have choosen differently for my own computer.

I am sure if I went high end on the two different types here, I could have saved money and made a better computer.

Show me a name brand pre-built that proves me wrong...

cubanlord · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!

lol....

ok....

No, I cannot build a cpu(central processing unit). I can build a computer. Chiaa...yes...my wife and I have come by your store many times (you're very nice and we love how you treat your customers and your store). We will probably be re-visiting in another month or so (the wife is nagging me for a trip to your store). I will definitely remind you so that we can take a peak.

I don't like to buy off-the-shelf computers because they come bundled with so much junk that it isn't funny. You could "delete" them...yes...but....what some of you may not know is that some of the programs are interlaced with programs you do use. Thus, delete one and the other won't work properly (i.e. sharing the same driver that just got deleted, etc.).

The only thing I worry about is the warranty on the components. Other than that, I am pro build-your-own PC. I have had AMD for a long time. I will probably stick with it.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Sounds good Chia but don't go with the ATI 9600.

cubanlord · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!

actually, I am looking for the geforce 6800gt or 6800 ultra...a pretty penny though...

chiaa · Joined: 23 Aug 2003

I actually like ATI a lot. I am more into movies and never play games--except for CIV which does not require a high end video card.

On my main computer/most powerful computer I have an ATI Radeon 8500 All in Wonder (think its the model) that I have been very happy with over the years.

If I was a Gamer I would stay away from ATI.

Wrench · Joined: 07 Apr 2005