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Tommy

Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: Getting things straight: standard working hours. |
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Hi everyone,
what are the standard working hours per week or per month? Almost every job offer that I've seen is 30/week or 120/month, or higher - though I've read that it should be no more than 25/week or 100/month.
Where have I heard this? I've seen a few posts here but particularly in a contract outline that I found on this board a while back... here: http://www.geocities.com/victoryolife/contractkr.html
"The Guaranteed workload is maximum of 25 clock hours per week, or 100 clock hours, per 4 weeks"
"Your salary should not be lower than 1.9 million won for 100 guaranteed hours in 4 weeks, for an inexperienced person with a BA degree that is not related to education."
Reading through this contract outline has been extremely helpful and I feel more confident in what I should be asking for. However, it seems that every job offer is asking for at least 30/week for 1.9 mil - is this now standard? So should I be negotiating lower hours or, if keeping 30hrs/week, a higher pay?
Also, the info about overtime pay was interesting, stating that it's law for overtime wages to be 1.5 times regular hourly pay. Is this correct?
"Many crooks try to pay you an overtime rate that is less than, or about your normal hourly pay." I decided to go over previous job offers to check this out at it was true - in every case the overtime pay was below the regular pay!
I have no idea who the author is for this outline or the validity of its contents - can someone please help me out.. is it mostly correct or incorrect or dated or what?
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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By law the overtime rate is after 44 hours work per week - so in this instance it is probably wrong.
Working thirty clock hours per week for 1.9 would be a bit silly. Working for 1.9 in itself ain't a good idea. I would think of a class as an hour too (class hours) - those extra ten/fifteen minutes really do add up over a month. |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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The author of the contract explains it's rationale here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1082997236-47822.txt
He's advocating that it's in the teacher's interest to have the contract written as 120 classes per month instead of 120 hours per month. Obviously that would be the preference but it's not a legal requirement. |
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benblex
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, South Corea
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: how about NON-TEACHING jobs?? |
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just got an editing job for english standardized tests. it's 40 hours a week (maybe more, haven't started yet, though they tell me it's pretty standard and no weekends). only pays 1.9 with 300,000 housing.
i tried to negotiate for more but got none - supervisor said it's standard for "non-teaching jobs" to start at 2 million but that after a year i might be able to negotiate for 100,000 more per month.
is this true about non-teaching jobs? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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"The Guaranteed workload is maximum of 25 clock hours per week, or 100 clock hours, per 4 weeks"
"Your salary should not be lower than 1.9 million won for 100 guaranteed hours in 4 weeks, for an inexperienced person with a BA degree that is not related to education."
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In my opinion, this is only the writer's opinion.
Hakwon's typically expect a teacher to work 6 classes a day (30 a week). The question of overtime is tricky. It needs to be clear in the contract whether a 'class' is counted as one hour, or if the boss considers a 50 minute class to be 50 minutes, making calculationg overtime more difficult. Keep in mind that most places figure overtime based on a month, not on one day. For example, if you end up working 34 hours one week but only 26 another week, you still have no overtime--even if you taught 18 hours one day. (I'm exaggerating.)
Some places pay 1.8, others up to 2.2 and maybe more. The most common 'average' I've seen quoted here at Dave's is W2 million/month. |
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