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| Do you have culture shock? |
| Stage 1: I'm at the newbie everything-is-fantastic stage. |
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| Stage 2: Culture shock. I hate it here. |
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| Stage 3: Culture stress. Problems from time to time but mostly I do ok. |
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| Stage 4: I'm fully adapted to life here. |
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| Stage 5: Assimilation. ������ �ѱ������� ������ �ؿ�. |
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| I don't have culture shock! I have bona fide complaints! |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: Do you have culture shock? |
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There are four stages of culture acquistion. Which stage are you at?
Are you at...
...stage 1 - excitement and euphoria?
...stage 2 - culture shock?
...stage 3 - culture stress?
...stage 4 - assimilation or full adaptation?
...none of the above?
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It is common to describe culture shock as the second of four successive stages of culture acquisition:
1. Stage 1 is a period of excitement and euphoria over the newness of the surroundings.
2. Stage 2 - culture shock - emerges as individuals feel the intrusion of more and more cultural differences into their own images of self and security. In this stage individuals rely on and seek out the support of their fellow countrymen in the second culture, taking solace in complaining about local customs and conditions, seeking escape from their predicament.
3. Stage 3 is one of gradual, and at first tentative and vacillating, recovery. This stage is typified by ... "culture stress": some problems of acculturation are solved while other problems continue for some time. But general progress is made, slowly but surely, as individuals begin to accept the differences in thinking and feeling that surround them, slowly becoming more empathic with other persons in the second culture.
4. Stage 4 represents near or full recovery, either assimilation or adaptation, acceptance of the new culture and self-confidence in the "new" person that has developed in this culture. |
This is Dave's "culture shock" cafe. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Where's the option for been here 9.5 years and never had culture shock. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Ya, I really don't get the whole Korean culture shock thing ...
I live 10mins from Walmart, KFC, McDonalds, 7-11. There are lots of foreigners in my area. I can go to the movies and watch hollywood crap in English, or just rent movies from the local dvd store. I teach in my native language and spend the vast majority of time conversing in it.
If I was to take a wild guess, I'd say that the OP is from a rural part of the US/Canada and has never spent a large amount of time in an urban setting, and/or has never been to a foreign country.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. But I for one - from the cultural point of view - was really underwhelmed when I set foot in Korea. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I think the OP's point has some validity.
The stages of culture shock correspond quite neatly to attitudes we often see in conflict on this board. |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| Ive been here 6 months. Havent experienced any culture shock. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| dbee wrote: |
| If I was to take a wild guess, I'd say that the OP is from a rural part of the US/Canada and has never spent a large amount of time in an urban setting, and/or has never been to a foreign country. |
Let's see, wrong, wrong, and wrong.
You're saying that only a hick would get culture shock in Korea are you? Pfffttt!! |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
I think the OP's point has some validity.
The stages of culture shock correspond quite neatly to attitudes we often see in conflict on this board. |
Yeah that was my other point.
Mainly though, I just came across these definitions of culture shock and wanted to see how they tested out in the real world just for fun. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Where's the option for been here 9.5 years and never had culture shock. |
Sorry, I forgot to put the never-had-culture-shock option in.
So you're fully adapted and it was painless? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| I was here back when Korea was Korea, and all I want to say is, you kids don't know the meaning of the word "pain". Or "shock". Or "culture". Or "do you have". |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Once again, JongnoGuru has said it all.
I've been here 10 years and culture shock still raises its ugly little head from time to time. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| SuperHero wrote: |
| Where's the option for been here 9.5 years and never had culture shock. |
Sorry, I forgot to put the never-had-culture-shock option in.
So you're fully adapted and it was painless? |
Yes. That's not to say I don't have bad days, but I've always been comfortable here. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Privateer said:
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You're saying that only a hick would get culture shock in Korea are you? Pfffttt!!
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... well I didn't mean it quite like that OP. I didn't mean it to sound offensive and there might be a good point in their about progressive stages of culture shock corresponding to various types of common complaints on this board.
But from my personal point of view, I always thought that from an urban-in-your-face-culture point of view - Korea is very much Asia-lite. That was my first impression after setting foot in Korea. And after travelling to most of the other Asian countries - I still believe it to be the case. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| dbee wrote: |
Privateer said:
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You're saying that only a hick would get culture shock in Korea are you? Pfffttt!!
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... well I didn't mean it quite like that OP. I didn't mean it to sound offensive and there might be a good point in their about progressive stages of culture shock corresponding to various types of common complaints on this board.
But from my personal point of view, I always thought that from an urban-in-your-face-culture point of view - Korea is very much Asia-lite. That was my first impression after setting foot in Korea. And after travelling to most of the other Asian countries - I still believe it to be the case. |
Well perhaps I was too quick to take offense.
Maybe it is Asia lite now. I first came here in 1999 and had culture shock big time - the shock part rather than the complaining part, I've always found other people voice all the complaints that ever occurred to me and quite a few that never did - and it wasn't the first foreign country I'd travelled to or lived in back then either.
Last year I returned for the second time and it seemed like all the 'inside' knowledge and skills I'd acquired the first time were no longer needed. Like where to find foreign food for instance - too easy! Even local supermarkets stock olive oil these days! And there seem to be a lot more foreigners wandering around and no Koreans are eager to come up and talk to me just because I'm a foreigner any more.
Here on Dave's last year it seemed people were slow to catch on and were still complaining about Korean nosiness as if nothing had changed - but now suddenly Korea is no big deal any more.
Well I guess in some ways it really isn't a big deal any more. But in some ways it still is so that bit on culture shock I found the other day still seems relevant. |
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