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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: The Culture Shock Test |
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The Culture Shock Test
You are in the grocery store with your cart, wandering up and down the aisles. The peanut butter is not where it was the last time and you get a knot in your stomach and maybe mutter something about why they can't just leave things alone. As you continue your search, knowing you can't ask where the peanut butter got moved to because you don't know the Korean word for it and even if you did you wouldn't understand the answer, you notice that an ajumma takes a peek in your cart as she goes by, even maybe picking something up out of your cart to inspect it. The knot in the stomach gets a little bigger. More muttering under the breath. You ignore the bumping and make no outward reaction but the knot gets tighter. You finally stumble across the peanut butter and finish up shopping. You head for the check-out counter and find yourself in a sprint with the lady with her cart filled to the brim and beat her, only to have another ajumma cut in line in front of you.
Do you:
a) Cuss her out under your breath, then ignore it and get on with your life, forgetting the incident within a minute?
b) Cuss her out out loud and say, "Hey lady! Get back to the end of the line where you belong"?
c) Reach into her cart and start throwing her stuff down the aisle, all the while cussing her out at the top of your lungs and turning red, denouncing Korea as the most uncivilized place on the planet, possibly the universe, and questioning the manhood, womanhood, legitimacy and mental ability of every Korean who has ever had the gall to blight the face of the earth in all of recorded and unrecorded history?
d) Do nothing, but the rest of the day, in every free moment, re-play the scene in your mind, fantasizing what you could have/should have done? Possibly take revenge on some agasshi (who had the unmitigated temerity to stop on the sidewalk 10 feet in front of you) by deliberately bashing your shoulder into her back on the way by--and NOT saying 'Excuse me'. Get home hours later, log on to Dave's, and post the story while ignoring the story about free pair of socks the shoe store man gave you when you bought new shoes after grocery shopping and forgetting to mention the ajumma who shared her umbrella with you while you were waiting to cross the street?.
e) Never refer to the incident again, but add one more reason to avoid Koreans as much as possible, restricting your social life mainly to bars and almost exclusively to foreigners. Your main and maybe only topic of conversation is reviewing the failures of Korean society, culture, food, people, fashions, music, weather, architecture, sports, TV and movies.
If you chose A or B, you are a well-adjusted Westerner. If you chose C, D or E you are caught in the web of culture shock.
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Feel free to enter your culture shock test question. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'll go with 'A'.
I've made my peace with Korea. It doesn't bother me and I don't bother it.
There are a lot of things that bother me strongly about Korea. Most of them stemming from confucianism which I see as being very contrary to modern, 21st century life. But, I've managed to rearrange my brain cells in a very radical way so that I can get through each day and not be bothered by all but the most serious incidents. Which don't happen often.
My culture-shock test question?
A smiling ajeossi at the table 4 feet away in a floor restaurant is so enthralled by the sight of you and your 3 foreign friends eating that he spins around on his cushion and gets comfortable so he can concentrate on watching you and ignoring his wife. He never says a word. Just smiles and makes appreciative sounds each time you take a piece of kimchi or knock back a soju.
Do you,
A. Smile at him and offer a soju pour with full respect.
B. Smile but turn away from him slightly for a little more privacy.
C. Spray soju from your mouth, put a lighter to it and napalm his stupid grin. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'll pick A for 1, B for 2.
Here's one.
You catch some schoolgirls on the subway taking your picture with their camera phones. Do you:
a) smile and pose for them
b) try to get a picture of yourself with them to put on your weblog
c) try to strike up a conversation with them and follow them around the rest of the afternoon
d) ignore them
e) pretend to get off and move to another car |
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bitter_hag

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Culture Shock Test |
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B. I'm all about accepting the culture on a certain level, but I'm not going to be so accepting that I let anyone cut in front of me. I just tend to shove them back out of the way or I give them the "oh I know you're not trying to cut" stare and that usually works. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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A for 1. B for 2. A for 1.
A person is giving you or your korean partner weird looks and makes comments about you or your partner being a 'race traitor,' '*beep*,' '*beep*,' or nasty words to that effect.
You
A. Try to ignore them and remove yourself and partner from the situtation if need be.
B. Defend your partner's honor and throw back some insult at the person.
C. Defend your partner's honor and throw a punch. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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The Culture Shock Test
You are in the grocery store with your cart, wandering up and down the aisles. The peanut butter is not where it was the last time and you get a knot in your stomach and maybe mutter something about why they can't just leave things alone. As you continue your search, knowing you can't ask where the peanut butter got moved to because you don't know the Korean word for it and even if you did you wouldn't understand the answer, you notice that an ajumma takes a peek in your cart as she goes by, even maybe picking something up out of your cart to inspect it. The knot in the stomach gets a little bigger. More muttering under the breath. You ignore the bumping and make no outward reaction but the knot gets tighter. You finally stumble across the peanut butter and finish up shopping. You head for the check-out counter and find yourself in a sprint with the lady with her cart filled to the brim and beat her, only to have another ajumma cut in line in front of you.
Do you:
a) Cuss her out under your breath, then ignore it and get on with your life, forgetting the incident within a minute?
b) Cuss her out out loud and say, "Hey lady! Get back to the end of the line where you belong"?
c) Reach into her cart and start throwing her stuff down the aisle, all the while cussing her out at the top of your lungs and turning red, denouncing Korea as the most uncivilized place on the planet, possibly the universe, and questioning the manhood, womanhood, legitimacy and mental ability of every Korean who has ever had the gall to blight the face of the earth in all of recorded and unrecorded history?
d) Do nothing, but the rest of the day, in every free moment, re-play the scene in your mind, fantasizing what you could have/should have done? Possibly take revenge on some agasshi (who had the unmitigated temerity to stop on the sidewalk 10 feet in front of you) by deliberately bashing your shoulder into her back on the way by--and NOT saying 'Excuse me'. Get home hours later, log on to Dave's, and post the story while ignoring the story about free pair of socks the shoe store man gave you when you bought new shoes after grocery shopping and forgetting to mention the ajumma who shared her umbrella with you while you were waiting to cross the street?.
e) Never refer to the incident again, but add one more reason to avoid Koreans as much as possible, restricting your social life mainly to bars and almost exclusively to foreigners. Your main and maybe only topic of conversation is reviewing the failures of Korean society, culture, food, people, fashions, music, weather, architecture, sports, TV and movies.
If you chose A or B, you are a well-adjusted Westerner. If you chose C, D or E you are caught in the web of culture shock.
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Feel free to enter your culture shock test question. |
None. I'd give her a "WTF?" look, laugh and carry on with my business, forgetting about the incident as quickly as it entered my head.
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My culture-shock test question?
A smiling ajeossi at the table 4 feet away in a floor restaurant is so enthralled by the sight of you and your 3 foreign friends eating that he spins around on his cushion and gets comfortable so he can concentrate on watching you and ignoring his wife. He never says a word. Just smiles and makes appreciative sounds each time you take a piece of kimchi or knock back a soju.
Do you,
A. Smile at him and offer a soju pour with full respect.
B. Smile but turn away from him slightly for a little more privacy.
C. Spray soju from your mouth, put a lighter to it and napalm his stupid grin. |
Again, neither. I'd stay in the same position, but I'm not giving any of my precious Soju away. I'd probably say An yong ha se yo and ok dok kay jin e se yo?. Any more than basic pleasantness seems unnecessary.
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You catch some schoolgirls on the subway taking your picture with their camera phones. Do you:
a) smile and pose for them
b) try to get a picture of yourself with them to put on your weblog
c) try to strike up a conversation with them and follow them around the rest of the afternoon
d) ignore them
e) pretend to get off and move to another car |
A. Possibly B too if I was in a good mood. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
I'll pick A for 1, B for 2.
Here's one.
You catch some schoolgirls on the subway taking your picture with their camera phones. Do you:
a) smile and pose for them
b) try to get a picture of yourself with them to put on your weblog
c) try to strike up a conversation with them and follow them around the rest of the afternoon
d) ignore them
e) pretend to get off and move to another car |
it's at times like this you have to ask yourself- "What would that crazy guy who lives on Jeju do?" |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Okay,
You're at a food stall buying some squid. The K-folks at the stall are clearly talking about you, laughing and joking along the way. Do you:
1. assume it's good-natured and don't give a rat's butt;
2. assume they're discussing how very handsome/pretty you are;
3. assume they're saying unpleasant things, being racist, xenophobic and trashing you for being foreign; later post thread #1,000,000 about how xenophobic and downright inferior the entire Korean race is based on this isolated incident;
4. don't think anything - positive or negative - of it. |
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baldrick

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: Location, Location
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:07 am Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
A smiling ajeossi at the table 4 feet away in a floor restaurant is so enthralled by the sight of you and your 3 foreign friends eating that he spins around on his cushion and gets comfortable so he can concentrate on watching you and ignoring his wife. He never says a word. Just smiles and makes appreciative sounds each time you take a piece of kimchi or knock back a soju.
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Very well written eamo.....i can hear the 'appreciative sounds' - odd grunts of approval, one might say. I lived in a small town and friday night the forigners would get together. I used to love the effect we could have as a big group strolling through the town (I mean about 6 pp max) - the high school girls giggling, crowds parting, conversation rapidly turning to the possible location of our UFO.....etc etc. My friend and I witnessed a middle school boy crack his kneecaps on the bonnet of a parked car because his head was 90 degrees to his body, mouth agape, staring. Despite both being male, in our mirth we had to hold each other. There was a black guy who occasionally dined with us - he used to let the attention really get to him, especially in restaurants. I've seen not just the adjossi turn his cushion, but the whole family. You look down at the next table and see 6 gormless, expressionless faces slowing chewing their food and observing you as if you were behind bars. It is at best offensive to the western pallette, and takes a lot of 'cultural' conditioning to learn to control your inner 'urges' in such a situation. I once engaged in a passive response with another lad, very funny. We finished off the last piece of pizza and simultaenously swivelled to about a 30 degree angle. We watched the previously bold adjossi and his mate trying to work out what had happened. Yeah, I think they figured it out in the end, that the shoe was well and truly on the other foot. Try it for yourself! |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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baldrick wrote: |
eamo wrote: |
A smiling ajeossi at the table 4 feet away in a floor restaurant is so enthralled by the sight of you and your 3 foreign friends eating that he spins around on his cushion and gets comfortable so he can concentrate on watching you and ignoring his wife. He never says a word. Just smiles and makes appreciative sounds each time you take a piece of kimchi or knock back a soju.
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Very well written eamo.....i can hear the 'appreciative sounds' - odd grunts of approval, one might say. I lived in a small town and friday night the forigners would get together. I used to love the effect we could have as a big group strolling through the town (I mean about 6 pp max) - the high school girls giggling, crowds parting, conversation rapidly turning to the possible location of our UFO.....etc etc. |
when and where was this? i'm guessing either not in seoul or not in the current day. i wanna do this stuff for myself. where do i gotta go to find it? boy, when they see the Ugliest Man in Kentucky, those rubes are gonna be shocked. |
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baldrick

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: Location, Location
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: |
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I was only two hours from Seoul on train. In HongSeong. ChungCheongNamDo. |
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bitter_hag

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:25 am Post subject: |
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SPINOZA wrote: |
Okay,
You're at a food stall buying some squid. The K-folks at the stall are clearly talking about you, laughing and joking along the way. Do you:
1. assume it's good-natured and don't give a rat's butt;
2. assume they're discussing how very handsome/pretty you are;
3. assume they're saying unpleasant things, being racist, xenophobic and trashing you for being foreign; later post thread #1,000,000 about how xenophobic and downright inferior the entire Korean race is based on this isolated incident;
4. don't think anything - positive or negative - of it. |
I'm vain and I understand enough Korean to know it's 2.  |
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ninjamonkey

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Location: where the streets have no name
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
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f) try to pick up the ajumma |
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Babayaga
Joined: 28 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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The test for me was whether I could endure constant embarrassed giggling every time I went out somewhere. Every time I'd ask a question in English, they'd giggle and smirk which made me feel stupid. If I tried speaking Korean, they wouldn't understand me either. So I had to endure giggling for 2 and 1/2 years.
I guess I had culture shock the entire time. |
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vlcupper

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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SPINOZA wrote: |
Okay,
You're at a food stall buying some squid. The K-folks at the stall are clearly talking about you, laughing and joking along the way. Do you:
1. assume it's good-natured and don't give a rat's butt;
2. assume they're discussing how very handsome/pretty you are;
3. assume they're saying unpleasant things, being racist, xenophobic and trashing you for being foreign; later post thread #1,000,000 about how xenophobic and downright inferior the entire Korean race is based on this isolated incident;
4. don't think anything - positive or negative - of it. |
5. Assume they're saying unpleasant things, but don't think anything about it.
I'm used to people talking shit about me. I'm ugly and I'm proud! |
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