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seoulkitchen
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: Foreigner stats plus a funny at the end |
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Questions abound about whether KOreans actually think about us F'ers or not.....
Here's some figures about us. Someone is thinking about us.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200510/kt2005102616392911950.htm
I like how they stick the foreigner crimes at the end of it. They always like to do that. Has nothing to do with the title of the article,
which seems it'll actually be favourable to the effin F'ers for once.
But alas.....
Didja notice this lil' tidbit at the end:
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By nationality, Chinese committed 5,724 crimes, accounting for 44 percent of the total, up from 33 percent four years ago. |
Hmmm, they only mention the Chinese figures. Maybe cause of the row over the food imports?
Maybe the heat is off the Canadians for a while, you can quit turnin' yerselves in. Maybe..... |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| About 183,863 Chinese, mostly ethic Korean Chinese, stay in the country, forming the largest group of foreign nationals |
You know, I wonder about this. Have you ever met a supposedly ethnically Korean person from China? I'm sure there are some here, but I don't think they're the majority of the Chinese in this country. Somehow I think this myth exists because Koreans don't want to think about the fact that interacting with people from another culture has become an absolute necessity for them. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| About 183,863 Chinese, mostly ethic Korean Chinese, stay in the country, forming the largest group of foreign nationals |
You know, I wonder about this. Have you ever met a supposedly ethnically Korean person from China? I'm sure there are some here, but I don't think they're the majority of the Chinese in this country. Somehow I think this myth exists because Koreans don't want to think about the fact that interacting with people from another culture has become an absolute necessity for them. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
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| About 183,863 Chinese, mostly ethic Korean Chinese, stay in the country, forming the largest group of foreign nationals |
You know, I wonder about this. Have you ever met a supposedly ethnically Korean person from China? I'm sure there are some here, but I don't think they're the majority of the Chinese in this country. Somehow I think this myth exists because Koreans don't want to think about the fact that interacting with people from another culture has become an absolute necessity for them. |
Of my 5 Chinese students, two are ethnically Korean and judging from the Korean out of the three that I saw at the Chinese restaurant tonight, all of them were ethnically Korean. |
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baldrick
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting to see that the Vietnamese come in as the 3rd highest population in Korea. Has anyone come across the Vietnamese community in Korea? I have a feeling that most of those 29,000 will be Vietnamese women who are married to Korean men (they would have met in Vietnam as there are thousands of Koreans in Hanoi and HCMC).
This is a long shot, but, anyone have a Vietnamese wife and live/have lived in Korea or Japan???!!! Not holding out any hope on that one. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| There are many road banner adverts for Vietnamese wives for around 10,000 USD: that might explain the high numbers. I am told, not with much pride, that most marry farmers as Korean ladies are nowadays disinclined to stay on the farm. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| The chart says 6,000 of 29,000 Vietnamese in Korea, are married to Koreans. So, I'd hazard a guess that the bulk of those 6,000 are women married to Korean men, and the other 23,000 are factory workers. I'm surprised that Indonesians are not on that list. I always figured that they would be up there with the Thai, Vietnamese, and Bangladeshi, in regards to factory workers. |
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baldrick
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| OOh yeah the factories. Of course. In fact I remember reading not so long ago in the Vietnam News that the Vietnamese and Korean governements have just made a working visa for Korea a lot easier to get, opening the door for Vietnamese workers to go and their $. |
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seoulkitchen
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Here's some more interesting stuff related to this:
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/10/27/200510270037.asp
here's a few excerpts that caught my eye....
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In a survey conducted of 144 foreign workers from the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam, 40.3 percent said they had paid brokers or government officials money additional to the official fee required, set between $400 and $600. In one case, thousands of dollars extra were given to a broker.
Against the terms of the MOU, a worker from Vietnam paid as much as $4,400 to a broker on top of the 600 dollars official fee in order to come here, said a KICAC report.
The KICAC claimed that loose policies allowed government officals to illegally process the visas of foreign workers in exchange for money. |
We're talking a cash cow for those Immy officers. Wow.
Jeez, just think about the official fee and how many workers there are here. And that's the above the board money.
And now, since we like to go ascrew here on Dave's,
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/10/28/200510280038.asp
(Yeah, you're thinking why doesn't he post this on the Chinese parasite thread???, well, after the corruption mentioned in the previous article, I was shocked by Mr. Jee in this article. A logical Korean??? OMG!)
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| "It shouldn't be made into a bigger problem than it really is," said Jee Man-soo, a researcher at the Korea Institute for International Economic Policy. "Making it a social issue through the media is not an answer to solving trade issues." |
How could this be???? This guy needs a promotion, a big promotion. |
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baldrick
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha good quote. I can't believe that a Vietnamese worker paid over $4000 on top of another fee of $400. The average wage in Vietnam is about $50-$100 a month.......I'd imagine factory workers are towards the lower end of the scale as well. That guy must have sold his house to have been able to afford that kind of payoff. |
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chiaa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| That guy must have sold his house to have been able to afford that kind of payoff. |
And two or three of his sisters. |
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