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mswiftansan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Can because start a sentence? Reply with quote

I swear I was told over and over throughout my school life "It is not gramatically correct to begin a sentence with Because". I'm teaching in the public school system and our lesson includes. "Because he is sick." Is this ok to teach? I realize we say it, but we don't write it....do we?
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pocariboy73



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Because he was sick, he had to go to the hospital" is correct
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an adverb clause marker, it expresses cause.

"Because he was sick, he had to go to school." is a perfect sentence. The main clause is "he had to go to school." "Because he was sick" modifies the verb "had to go" and is a subordinate clause.

"Because he was sick" is a sentence fragment, not a complete sentence. "Because" subordinates the subject and verb of this clause to a main clause, but there is no main clause. This is only acceptable as an answer to a question in spoken or casual English.

You can begin sentences with "when, while, as, during, because, since, whether, if, although, even though, despite."

You cannot begin sentences with "and, but, or, so." These are always found in the middle, joining a main clause to a subordinate clause.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say you teach it as normal conversation style and stress it is not for formal written situations.

If you are only teaching speaking, I would get them to make the full sentence until they are so comfortable with it that it is automatic. Then let them use the short form.

Why didn't Johnny go to school?
Johnny didn't go to school because he is sick.

Later accept "Because he is sick".
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ladyandthetramp



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:

You cannot begin sentences with "and, but, or, so." These are always found in the middle, joining a main clause to a subordinate clause.


I always correct Koreans on this, but they never listen. They learned that it was correct just like it is correct to because a sentence in Korean with �׸���. Part of the problem is that a good number of ESL textbooks begin sentences with "and" because it's somehow easier to understand than putting in a flippin' comma instead.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyandthetramp wrote:
Pyongshin Sangja wrote:

You cannot begin sentences with "and, but, or, so." These are always found in the middle, joining a main clause to a subordinate clause.


I always correct Koreans on this, but they never listen. They learned that it was correct just like it is correct to because a sentence in Korean with �׸���. Part of the problem is that a good number of ESL textbooks begin sentences with "and" because it's somehow easier to understand than putting in a flippin' comma instead.


I'd say the most linguistically formal and conservative, sometimes to the point of being stilted, publication in America is the New York Times. This is from the second article I randomly clicked on at their home page just now:

Quote:
Both Mr. Bush and Ms. Miers cited the principle of separation of powers as the reason for the withdrawal and said that releasing documents requested by the Senate about Ms. Miers's work in the White House would weaken the independence of the executive branch and a president's freedom to confer in private with advisers.

But members of both parties said that the separation of powers argument was not the central reason for the withdrawal.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one from the very next article:

Quote:
Industry groups applauded him; environmental groups attacked him. And committee members seemed little swayed from their original positions.


Every good writer of English, and everyone who speaks it, does this all the time. It's no barrier to clear writing and only a very few will have a problem with it. I'd say the main reason you don't see it as much in formal writing is because there's usually a bigger word you can use instead -- therefore, etc.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, it happens all the time, but they'll fail the TOEFL if they learn it's acceptable.
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wwidgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-on the topic of using "BUT"--------

Most people believe they shouldn't start a sentence with a coordinating conjunction because their grammar teachers in grade school told them not to.

When grammar teachers teach youngsters the essentials of sentence structure, they most likely explain that coordinating conjunctions are used to hold together elements within a sentence. BUT, it can also be used to start a sentence.

"When you are writing in informal contexts and decide to start a sentence with a coordinating conjunction, always be sure that what follows it is an independent clause, capable of standing alone as a sentence."

http://www.sparknotes.com/writing/style/topic_17.html


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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree with PS here. Another thing to keep in mind is that in Canada we are taught in grade school not to ever begin a sentence with because, whereas in the USA it they are taught that it depends on the situation (see below).

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
It's an adverb clause marker, it expresses cause.

"Because he was sick, he had to go to school." is a perfect sentence. The main clause is "he had to go to school." "Because he was sick" modifies the verb "had to go" and is a subordinate clause.

"Because he was sick" is a sentence fragment, not a complete sentence. "Because" subordinates the subject and verb of this clause to a main clause, but there is no main clause. This is only acceptable as an answer to a question in spoken or casual English.

You can begin sentences with "when, while, as, during, because, since, whether, if, although, even though, despite."

You cannot begin sentences with "and, but, or, so." These are always found in the middle, joining a main clause to a subordinate clause.
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plattwaz



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was younger we were always taught that as well -- "Never start a sentence with 'because.' "

In higher grades, we were taught that you can start sentences with 'because,' when it is used properly (ugh, can't remember the grammar term...clause marker?) As written above: "Because she was sick, she had to go to the hospital."

I do the same with my students. If they are young, and are just learning to make sentences, either spoken or written, I tell them they can't start the sentences with because. But, my high level elementary students who have excellent writing skills are taught the proper way that they CAN use 'because' to start a sentence.

I do, however, have dozens of students and parents whining that I am an evil wrong teacher who doesn't know what I'm talking about -- the Korean teacher who allows them to use 'because' to start a sentence is correct in this case. Evil or Very Mad
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ladyandthetramp



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
Here's one from the very next article:

Quote:
Industry groups applauded him; environmental groups attacked him. And committee members seemed little swayed from their original positions.


Every good writer of English, and everyone who speaks it, does this all the time. It's no barrier to clear writing and only a very few will have a problem with it. I'd say the main reason you don't see it as much in formal writing is because there's usually a bigger word you can use instead -- therefore, etc.


Perhaps I need to be more specific. It is generally considered poor writing style, which is what I tell Koreans. Generally, simply replacing the period with a comma or erasing the words altogether is all that is necessary.

I do not think that beginning a sentence with "and" is always wrong. I begin sentences with "and" occasionally for stylistic reasons. When writing dialogues, I have no problem with beginning sentences with "and" begins it reflects the way we speak. However, when teaching students to write, you also need to teach them at least some basics of what is considered good writing style.

What do you think of the sentences:
I like cats. And I eat breakfast in the morning.

Is "and" necessary? No, but my students like writing it.

Or this:
I am a boy. And I am tall.

Should we tell them that this is good writing? Or should we teach them:

I am a tall boy.


Here are some sentences from books I have to use:

"First, draw two circles and add eyes. Now draw a face. And add a nose and a mouth...."

"The driver takes the money. And he makes a circle with his thumb and forefinger."

"I looked around. But there was nobody near."

Ask yourself one of these two (three) questions:
1. Is "and" necessary? Does it look better than the same sentence without it?
2. Wouldn't a comma look better?

There are some fairly advanced books published in Korea that never use words like "although, however, also, too, nonetheless, nevertheless, moreover, in addition, etc." Shouldn't we teach them these words so they can sound a little more intelligent when they write?
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coolsage



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Because you're mine (subordinate clause), I walk the line (independent clause)'. The language of music, the music of language. Subject matter for a very advanced class. Learn the rules first, then learn to break them.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students are often discouraged from starting sentences with "but" and "because".
Why?
Because it's too easy to overuse the form.
But don't worry.
It's perfectly fine.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another example of an aspect of English that's really hard to teach because it's really hard to formulate a hard and fast rule that students can, robot-like, follow.

At least, that is, until they get into upper intermediate but only the minority ever will.

Or maybe it isn't really hard to teach? Is it just that TEFL instructors are up against all the weight of incorrect teaching in schools and common textbooks?
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