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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: France is burning Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/04/france.riots/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/02/france.bittermann/index.html


This is what you get when you let my Muslim brothers enter your country, but won't even recognize them as equals.

Does anyone feel sorry for France?
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't feel sorry for them I'm quite angry at them for being stupid enough to let them in to begin with.
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you will understand their plight after you read this:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1125401,00.html



'Officially, the French state doesn't recognize minorities, only citizens of France, all of them equal under the law. But that republican ideal has seemed especially hollow over the past week as the children of impoverished, largely Muslim immigrants from the Maghreb and sub-Saharan Africa fought running battles with police throughout the banlieues, or suburbs, to the east and north of the French capital.'
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: France is burning Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/04/france.riots/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/02/france.bittermann/index.html


This is what you get when you let my Muslim brothers enter your country, but won't even recognize them as equals.

Does anyone feel sorry for France?


As opposed to them staying in their own countries and engaging in terrorism?? I understand the point that the system in France may be letting them down, but aren't you also letting them off the hook for their own choices? that seems opposite of your typical perspective. Do Muslim's deserve a break the rest of the world doesn't?

I am sincerely confused by this post given your overall tendency in your posts, but I am probably missing something.
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: France is burning Reply with quote

EFLtrainer wrote:
BigBlackEquus wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/04/france.riots/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/02/france.bittermann/index.html


This is what you get when you let my Muslim brothers enter your country, but won't even recognize them as equals.

Does anyone feel sorry for France?


As opposed to them staying in their own countries and engaging in terrorism?? I understand the point that the system in France may be letting them down, but aren't you also letting them off the hook for their own choices? that seems opposite of your typical perspective. Do Muslim's deserve a break the rest of the world doesn't?

I am sincerely confused by this post given your overall tendency in your posts, but I am probably missing something.


My point is that you can't just accept a boatload of people, brag about how open and accepting your country is, and then treat them like 2nd class or 3rd class trash.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: France is burning Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
EFLtrainer wrote:
BigBlackEquus wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/04/france.riots/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/02/france.bittermann/index.html


This is what you get when you let my Muslim brothers enter your country, but won't even recognize them as equals.

Does anyone feel sorry for France?


As opposed to them staying in their own countries and engaging in terrorism?? I understand the point that the system in France may be letting them down, but aren't you also letting them off the hook for their own choices? that seems opposite of your typical perspective. Do Muslim's deserve a break the rest of the world doesn't?

I am sincerely confused by this post given your overall tendency in your posts, but I am probably missing something.


My point is that you can't just accept a boatload of people, brag about how open and accepting your country is, and then treat them like 2nd class or 3rd class trash.


So they should stop bragging. And they'll never have another riot again.
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This is what you get when you let my Muslim brothers enter your country, but won't even recognize them as equals.


No, this is what happens when you let muslims into any country in large numbers. It is bizarre that you would refer to such people as 'brothers', when many of them would happily see you dead for your sexual preferences.
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
My point is that you can't just accept a boatload of people


That was the original mistake. Unfortunately, the clock cannot be turned back.
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I can't agree with the politics behind this site, exactly, this is an excellent take on the history behind this mess, quoted from another source:

http://www.libertysecurity.org/article234.html
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are all a bunch of discriminatory hate-mongers who should be banned.

You take a few non-related incidents where Muslims have been mistreated, and problems arose, and use them as a platform for hate speech.

Where is the justice?

(Ok, I just saw there was another thread on here named almost the same as this one... my bad).
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:

Where is the justice?


Ask our Christian brothers who are perseuted in Algeria...arrested for being in possession of bibles, for pity's sake.
"Maybe they should have running battles with the Algerian police and see if they'll get given free housing."

Maybe the Christians being murdered in Iran could answer that question. or..in virtually every Muslim country you care to name.

"Religious persecution of Christians in the Middle East has reached extreme forms of human degradation"
http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/christians.html
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBE stated on another thread that he wanted Islam to dominate the earth and that there were only 'muslims and infidels'.

If such views are common amongst muslims in Europe, is it any wonder they face suspicion and discrimination?

Anyway, someone get rid of this thread, we already have one.
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