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Gov't job just over 1.3 a month for 20 hrs. Are they stupid?
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Gov't job just over 1.3 a month for 20 hrs. Are they stupid? Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=17903

Am I reading this ad right? They want you to work about 20 hours per week, have "at least" an MA and 3 years of experience. All for the whopping sum of just over 15 million won per year???

How many foreign applicants do you think they'll get?:




Job Opportunity for English Proofreader to work at the Seoul Metropolitan Government

Qualifications:
General
English native speakers or Koreans who have lived in countries with English as the native language for 10 years or longer, have profound understanding of Korean Language and culture, and who fulfill one of the following conditions :

1. Have at least 3 years experience in proofreading, editing and other related areas, together with a masters degree acquired in a country where English is the primary spoken language.
2. Have at least 6 years experience in proofreading, editing and other related areas, together with a bachelors degree acquired in a country where English is the primary spoken language.

Job description:
1. Proofreading official documents and publications written in English
2. Support for international events and coordination with overseas cities
3. English education for public officials in charge of international cooperation at Seoul Metropolitan Government

Working Conditions
1. Work hours: no more than 20 hours a week (details will be negotiated when signing the contract)
2. Pay: 15,102,000 won ~ 18,516,000 won a year
3. Contract Period: one year

* In the case that the applicant chosen for the position can not begin or complete the contract, the runner-up can be automatically chosen for the position

Documentation
1. Completed application form
2. Resume
3. Cover letter
4. A copy of undergraduate and/or graduate diplomas
5. Copies of transcripts
6. Curriculum vitae
7. Any certificates regarding language skills
8. Two passport size color photos
9. Copies of Foreign Resident Registration Card or passport
10. 7,000 won for the application fee

Application Period : Nov 3th 2005 �� Nov 16th 2005
Application Place : International Cooperation Division
(work hours : 09:00-18:00 from Monday to Friday)

* Interview + Test Date : those applicants who are selected on the basis of the documents submitted will be notified on 11/22/05 to come in for a proofreading test and interview

* Please note that all documents submitted will not be returned.

* For further details, please contact : International Cooperation Division
- Tel : 3707-9365, 6321-4486

* The application form can be downloaded from the: ��
�?What's New�?board at
(in Korean) www.seoul.go.kr,
(in English) http://english.seoul.go.kr
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes sounds like they are stupid.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read it again. They want a Korean.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about the 7500 won application fee?
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Read it again. They want a Korean.


Yeah, I suppose that's why they said, 'English native speakers or Koreans'

and

'together with a bachelors degree acquired in a country where English is the primary spoken language'

and

'Copies of Foreign Resident Registration Card or passport '



I see nothing which tells me they only want a Korean. What they want is a highly educated foreigner or Korean/gyopo whom they can pay as a part-time nobody. There isn't even housing with this.

They're dreaming.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Or Koreans" equals Koreans.

Any Korean can cheat their way to a US BA. They do all the time.

I see "profound knowledge of Korea" and a ridiculous wage.

That says Korean, maybe Gyopo. Same thing.

I also see a way to get something other than teacher on a resume.

That might be worth a little less per hour if you had a light schedule elsewhere.


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chiaa



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
how about the 7500 won application fee?


They just have no idea what they are doing and what the market is. You can tell this is a Korean that has never really dealt with foreign employees because of the application fee. It is not unusual to charge an application fee among Korean applicants.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either way, there are very few competent Korean translators and proof readers who would work for that amount of money. Maybe they are hoping to get someone who needs a second job.
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
"Or Koreans" equals Koreans.

Any Korean can cheat their way to a US BA. They do all the time.

I see "profound knowledge of Korea" and a ridiculous wage.

That says Korean, maybe Gyopo. Same thing.

I also see a way to get something other than teacher on a resume.

That might be worth a little less per hour if you had a light schedule elsewhere.


Only Korean or Gyopo? Yeah, right. Laughing

That's probably why they paid $75 to promote the advertisment on a job board that's in English, and profoundly foreign. Rolling Eyes

Try reading the ad again and tell me if you see the words, 'ONLY Koreans or foreign koreans.' You won't. You're a university lecturer, and you don't know the difference between only and or?

It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes. Go ahead, you can do it!

Believe whatever you want.

I'd say that Chiaa is very correct. They want a foreigner, but have no idea how to get one.
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
"Or Koreans" equals Koreans.

Any Korean can cheat their way to a US BA. They do all the time.

I see "profound knowledge of Korea" and a ridiculous wage.

That says Korean, maybe Gyopo. Same thing.

I also see a way to get something other than teacher on a resume.

That might be worth a little less per hour if you had a light schedule elsewhere.


Only Korean or Gyopo? Yeah, right. Laughing

That's probably why they paid $75 to promote the advertisment on a job board that's in English, and profoundly foreign. Rolling Eyes

Try reading the ad again and tell me if you see the words, 'ONLY Koreans or foreign koreans.' You won't. You're a university lecturer, and you don't know the difference between only and or?

It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes. Go ahead, you can do it!

Believe whatever you want.

I'd say that Chiaa is very correct. They want a foreigner, but have no idea how to get one.


hahaha...

That aside, I think they should share what ever they are smoking. They will not even get some one that has to qualifications for such a terrible wage.
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rok_the-boat



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this part:

Quote:
* In the case that the applicant chosen for the position can not begin or complete the contract, the runner-up can be automatically chosen for the position
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BigBlackEquus



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, I'm thinking of placing an ad for some really good looking fake job with great hours and excellent pay, then ask for a 7,000 won application fee. If enough people apply, I could make some serious dough!
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
Heck, I'm thinking of placing an ad for some really good looking fake job with great hours and excellent pay, then ask for a 7,000 won application fee. If enough people apply, I could make some serious dough!

Foreign-invested company? Make it a non-refundable 20,000 won processing fee. Minimum. Check out the photos and date the cuties. This is almost identical to one of the first non-serious posts I ever wrote.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
You're a university lecturer, and you don't know the difference between only and or?


How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before?

By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university?

Who is the premier of Ontario?

Who won the Stanley Cup in 1993?

What is a "Tim-Bit?"

What is the largest subway network in Canada?

Which province is the only perfect rectangle?

Who was Mr. Dressup's androgynous puppet friend?

The androgynous puppet's pet dog?

How much was tuition when you went to school?

How did you pay for your schooling?

What is the highest tax bracket in Canada?

If you were arrested by the Surete, where would you be?

How many political parties have seats in the House of Commons?

Which party is furthest right? Left?

Which party/parties is/are associated with separatism? Separatism of what?

What is the CN? CPR? NDP? CTV? CBC? BNA? RevCan? The Bluenose? A Double-Double? Spearing? Icing? Being "out-of-your-crease?

What is a mukluk? A kayak? A Chinook? An Inukshuk? Susan Aglukark? Buffy St. Marie? Rita MacNeil?

I'm sure that a pur laine Canadien such as you can answer these questions in a jiffy.

After that we'll get back to whether or not the Seoul Metropolitan Government is stupid.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, PS. Are those questions from Quiz Nite at that Canadian Pub in the 'won, Rocky Mountain Pub? No, that wasn't it. Mountain People? No... Mountain Rock? Big Rock? Whatever. If so, then that seals it. Never gone, never will. Shocked
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