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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Preposterous complaints from mothers Reply with quote

If you work at a kiddie hogwon you have undoubtedly heard complaints from the moms. Some less warranted than others. Lets list em here. I will start:
Back during the World Cup, I had parents call and complain about me because I said in class that Ihoped my national team (USA) would do well. I didnt even know they were to play Korea. I didnt know how or even if i should defend this action to my boss.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

our hogwan has an english only policy in the classroom.
for my lower level students, i am prepared to offer vocabulary translations in korean if i see any blank faces.

i don't speak korean in the class other than to offer those translations.

however, a few days ago, i received a barrage of complaints from a GROUP of mothers from different classes denouncing my use of korean in the classroom....as it should be english only.

the only reason i started translating, was because of the complaints that the lower level students couldn't understand new vocabulary.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The grandmother of one of our preschoolers regularly calls and harrasses the Korean teacher over nothing. If the little boy comes home with the tiniest of scratches, she calls and screams bloody murder. I found out yesterday that she has repeatedly threatened to kill the Korean teacher. We've resorted to telling the little boy that he cannot play with the other children, or even play at all because he might get "hurt" and then the school would have to deal with the crazy granny. Still, there is the chance of a nasty paper cut which would result in more death threats. Next year, he's in my class. Shocked
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.. I got one about your not doing enough crafts.. Then when I started doing crafts I got complaints that I wasn't teaching english. I just roll my eyes and say OK I will do it your way. Then I get a complaint from the director that I don't have enough kids crap on my walls, I tell them that you told me to hold off on the crafts. So how am I supposed to have wall fodder?

Its a cycle of stupidity. I know it they know it, I just play the game and take my paycheck home. The ironic thing is that they are really happy with me.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my first post on Dave's. I've been teaching and living in Korea since January.

Don't let anyone tell you what to do.

"Go faster. Don't do this. Don't do that." Whatever. If you're confident enough at your job, and the students are learning English, you don't need to be distracted with useless comments. Let them know this. And don't be intimidated.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
The grandmother of one of our preschoolers regularly calls and harrasses the Korean teacher over nothing. If the little boy comes home with the tiniest of scratches, she calls and screams bloody murder. I found out yesterday that she has repeatedly threatened to kill the Korean teacher.


In Taiwan I had a student go home with scratches on her face from a fight with another (kindergarten) student. The grandmother (father's mother) not only called our school to give them hell, but apparently beat the crap out of her daughter-in-law, the child's mother. Around there it's pretty Confucian. It's more Confucian here, I wonder if this kind of thing happens here too. In Korea is it common for a wife to go and live with her husband in his parents' home, or do married couples typically move out on their own?
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My BF has some beauties, I kid you not he got a complaint that one student was learning to much!, Im not sure if it was lost in the translation but thats how the directom explained it.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
In Korea is it common for a wife to go and live with her husband in his parents' home, or do married couples typically move out on their own?


Yes, it's still common for the eldest son to continue living with his parents after marriage. It's somewhat less common than before, but still... This is a major reason eldest sons sometimes have trouble getting dates. Lots of women don't want to put up with the responsibility of taking care of her in-laws. I know two men who are divorced because their wives decided after marriage they didn't want to put up with the crap the mother-in-law dished out.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learning too much, yeah, we had some parents try to pull their daughter out saying that she knew more than enough English for her age. Shocked We managed to talk them into leaving her with us, but word is, she is gone at the end of the school year and the director doesn't seem like he thinks there is a chance we can keep her. The first time it happened, I jokingly told the director I would start changing her answers on her test papers to give her lower grades so that the parents would think there is still something left for her to learn. Now I wish I HAD done that. Sad
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
Learning too much, yeah, we had some parents try to pull their daughter out saying that she knew more than enough English for her age.



I translate that as "My child complains that she's bored in class because the other students aren't up to her level." and/or "You've put my child in the class with older students but really she'd rather be with her own age group even though she knows more than they do."
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flint



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a mother complain because I chatted with the kids, in English, in class.

It was a class of 10-11 kids. 5 of them would finish 5 mins or so before the others. We would chat about anything they wanted to in that time, but they had to try and use English. They actually tried.

The mother of a boy who was never finished on time called and complained. I was ordered, by the director, not to converse in English with them. If they finished their work, give them more.

I was flabbergasted. I said, so, because 1 person complained half the class gets punished for actually trying to talk in English? At that point standard Directorial BS started. It wasn't 1 parent it was many, which after a few minutes got pared down to 1 again. To which I said, fine, you are the boss, its your school.

The other kids learned from "someone" that they could complain about the lack of conversing anymore. Whiney kid ended up quiting. I ended up going back to doing what worked.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one word to explain this;

catch-22
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally, I'd agree, Joe, but she was in the class her parents wanted her to be in. They honestly believe that she knows enough English now and it's time to focus more on Korean. I think it's because she went through our English kindergarten program. She learned lots of kindy English songs, rhymes, dances, what have you. She never learned the Korean stuff. I think that they want her to learn that now.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked hogwan I encountered this problem. At first I made the mistake of taking it seriously. After I told the supervisor "you can tell Jay's mother that I think her son is a disgrace and she should be embarrassed to have a son like that" they stopped bothering to relay parental concerns on to me.
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flint



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
When I worked hogwan I encountered this problem. At first I made the mistake of taking it seriously. After I told the supervisor "you can tell Jay's mother that I think her son is a disgrace and she should be embarrassed to have a son like that" they stopped bothering to relay parental concerns on to me.


One day, as I was leaving the hagwon, a woman got in the elevator with me. She said: You teach my daughter Helen. How is she?

Helen was a fantastic student. Her English level was great, she liked to participate. She even worked hard. So, I told her mother the truth.

Her mom was very happy. Then she said: How about my son? You teach him too. Sean.

Oh jeeze. I only taught one Sean and he was one of the biggest and laziest pains in the derriere. He would have been a bigger pain but that would have taken more effort than he was willing to give. His English was actually pretty good, but he just didn't want to be there. It was actually better to let him sleep in class, which he sometimes did, because then the others might actually learn something. So, I told her the truth. His English was good, but he was not a good student. She hung her head, said she knew and would try to make him work harder.

Of course the boss wasn't happy that I told a parent the truth. I was happy though. Smile
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