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aaysc
Joined: 28 May 2003
Location: USA
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 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: Debt / legal question |
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| I have a friend who left Korea due to family problems back in Canada. He left with about 15 million Won in credit card bills. He now wants to return to Korea to work and once he has his feet back under him, he will contact his former creditors for repayment. Will he have any problem entering Korea? Will he be detained? Is this viewed as a criminal problem that might keep him from getting his visa? Thanks in advance. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| And this is why banks are sketchy about giving credit cards to foreigners... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Your friend might try contacting a lawyer. I think I would if I ran out on $15,000 in debt. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| If the average teacher makes 2 million/month and saves 1/2 of it, that is W12 million a year. It looks to me like this person ran up the credit card bill just before leaving and never intended to pay it. |
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aaysc
Joined: 28 May 2003
Location: USA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: u have all the answers |
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| Wow! You really do have all the answers don't u? Actually most people I know in Korea make a lot more than 2 million a month. Sometimes I forget about the hogwan slaves though. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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I hope he burns for it. It sucks when people do stupid things that hurt my reputation just because I teach English like them. Why couldn't he be responsible and deal with the debt?
Funny how he used the popular excuse..."Family problems".. like it excuses all behavior. Every teacher who has done something stupid always has an excuse for how its not their fault. |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I have a friend of a friend of a cousin related to Tom Cruise's great Uncle who is his friend of the Cousin that fought in Normandy, but twice removed, that is coming to Korea to meet this friend of a friend who is the friend of this guy in Canada that I know.......is me 
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Wow! You really do have all the answers don't u? Actually most people I know in Korea make a lot more than 2 million a month. Sometimes I forget about the hogwan slaves though.
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touchy 
but hey I've been touchy too at times. By the way, did I teel you about my friend with an extremely small p***s  |
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aaysc
Joined: 28 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: very funny |
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| You are very funny. I didn't think hogwan slaves had so much free time on their hands. Well family problems may be a 'popular' excuse to you, but this guy had some serious sh*t back home to deal with. He at least is trying to come back here to Korea and repay his debts. All I was doing is asking if anyone had any information about the legal / immigration consequences of this. Not asking for snide remarks and judgements. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Oh GOD!
Immigration doesn't care about his debts. He may be sued by the credit card agency and like in Canada the best they could do it take some of his salary. People don't go to jail for credit card debt..(so far).
This is not a serious issue for us because he is a loser. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Oh GOD!
Immigration doesn't care about his debts. He may be sued by the credit card agency and like in Canada the best they could do it take some of his salary. People don't go to jail for credit card debt..(so far).
This is not a serious issue for us because he is a loser. |
Be careful of that. Immigration has been reputed to hold people with outstanding civil charges on them before. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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If your friend were a person of honor, he would have made arrangements to pay installments before he left. The truth is, he got in over his head, bailed out, went home and flopped there as well. Now he wants to come back to the only place he knows he can make some money and is 'promising' to pay off a legitimate debt only because he has no other choice if he wants to get back in the country.
I hope some lawyer hires a collection agent who shows up at his door in Frog Spit, O and confiscates every item of clothing and anything else he owns.
This guy deserves no respect or help. He's a sleaze. |
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aaysc
Joined: 28 May 2003
Location: USA
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: anger issues |
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'promising' to pay off a legitimate debt only because he has no other choice if he wants to get back in the country.
Ya ta boy,
How is promising he is going to pay off his debts going to get him back in the country? I think you are missing the point here. I sense some real anger issues in you. I would love to observe some of your 'classes'. I bet it would be a real eye opener. Life as a hogwan slave must be hard. Or maybe you are one of those guys who thinks because he has been in korea over five years that he is an expert on everything Korea. Kind of an egg maybe. |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Not asking for snide remarks and judgements. |
So...why did you start and continue to make them?
People have raised some genuine curiosities. No one is down on family problems. My uncle died two months ago by stroke, My Father had open heart surgery last week for prosthetic valve replacement and my Grandfather, with whom I lived with from the age of three months, is in terminal stage bone cancer, just went home for palliative care from the hospital. I sh*t you not and don't f**ck'n come back at me about it.
Really 
Firstly, I was joking about the cliche 'I have a friend etc....', not your actual friends situation. Read again please.
Secondly, if you ask questions on a bulletin board like this, lighten up, as I have had too, because, seriously, I have been touchy in the past too, you could check my posts to confirm this. If you come off as indignant people become less willing to help.
Finally, by the way, I don't work at a hagwon (I work at a kindergarten) and legally teach privates (good old F2).
Jeez............................but,
I hope you get the advice you want. Just chill out
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| I think you are missing the point here. I sense some real anger issues in you. I would love to observe some of your 'classes'. I bet it would be a real eye opener. Life as a hogwan slave must be hard. Or maybe you are one of those guys who thinks because he has been in korea over five years that he is an expert on everything Korea. Kind of an egg maybe. |
I was just going to let this go, since your idiocy is evident to all, but then I drank some soju and decided...what the heck...may as well respond.
#1. What does the length of my residence in Korea have to do with whether or not your 'friend' (and I highly doubt anyone believes that old one) pays back his debt? Could you clue us in on the connection?
#2. What makes you think I'm a hakwon slave, as you so endearingly put it?
#3. The personality you have shown so far makes me think you should not be near kids, so no, you are not invited to observe my classes. But I would say that people who work with minors should at least endeavor to have some knowledge of ethics. So far, you have shown no sensitivity to the idea that someone who runs out on a $15,000 debt knows anything about responsibility. In fact, most people would think that person is a sleaze. No 'emergency' excuses a debt. It may complicate the repayment, certainly, but in no way cancels it.
Quite frankly, what hakwon, school OR company needs an employee with the ethics of a scum bag? And if this really is you and not a friend, who needs an unimaginative liar as well as a thief? |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:14 am Post subject: Re: very funny |
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| aaysc wrote: |
| Well family problems may be a 'popular' excuse to you, but this guy had some serious sh*t back home to deal with. He at least is trying to come back here to Korea and repay his debts. |
Although you may be telling the truth, an objective viewer could be excused for concluding the opposite. I.e., your friend is only now approaching the issue of paying off the debts, in order to be aboe to work in Korea again. If he's seriously interested in paying off the debts, why doesn't he just go ahead and do so? Why does he have to come back and work in Korea in order to pay them off? Why not get a job back home and pay them off from there?
I also don't understand how anyone could run up $15 million won in credit card bills in a single year. Look at it from Korea/a Korean's perspective. If someone ran up $15,000 in credit card bills in Canada, and then ran off to their home country, would you be inclined to let them back in?
As a Canadian, I hope your friend is never allowed to return to Korea. Actions like his give legitimate, hardworking, responsible Canadians and other westerners working in Korea a bad name. |
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