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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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 Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: Getting a University interview |
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How hard is it to get an interview for a university job? Do they prefer people who are already in Korea or does it not matter.?
I will receive my M.A. in December and have taught for two years as an instructor in an American University. I also have experience working at camps in China and Taiwan.
Any advice??? |
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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: |
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You have the qualifications (almost-most want that MA in hand now) ) but they normally want to interview you so unless you can talk them into doing a phone interview(low likelihood because they want to see you and maybe even have you give a short teaching demo) you need to be in Korea.
As a matter of interest how did you instruct at an American U without at least an MA? |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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It is normal. Graduate students teach 100 level Spanish, German, and French classes.
What is the chance that some universities don't get many applicants? Some guy said he once was the only guy applying. Maybe one of the universities I applied to will not receive many applications! |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| I have applied to four universities and am working on applying to a fifth university. How many applications should I send out? |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
| I have applied to four universities and am working on applying to a fifth university. How many applications should I send out? |
I put low odds on your getting a Seoul uni job while not in Korea. Sorry. Overseas experience combined with uni level experience and a Master's is the magic key.
Definitely send out applications to Uni programs outside of Seoul. They'll take more risks in hiring new or relatively unqualified people, and then you'll have the uni level experience that'll get you hired in Seoul. Put up with the boonies for a year, do your time, and then reap the benefits. |
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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| simone wrote: |
| JZer wrote: |
| I have applied to four universities and am working on applying to a fifth university. How many applications should I send out? |
I put low odds on your getting a Seoul uni job while not in Korea. Sorry. Overseas experience combined with uni level experience and a Master's is the magic key.
Definitely send out applications to Uni programs outside of Seoul. They'll take more risks in hiring new or relatively unqualified people, and then you'll have the uni level experience that'll get you hired in Seoul. Put up with the boonies for a year, do your time, and then reap the benefits. |
That is good advice but the boonies locaton seems to be becoming more attractive. I teach in the boonies, 4 years now. I love the fact that I don't have to put up with the crowds and pollution in Seoul and yet it's close enough I can go there whenever I want. I'm going back to Canada so they are looking to replace me and I was in the director's office the other day and he had a foot high stack of resumes on his credenza and the job was only advertised on some free site and an MA + 2 years in a uni is required. Maybe because we are paid 2.5 here + lots of overtime if we want it, winter and summer camps and other outside opportunties here that the uni supports us on for the additions to the visa. But I also think that getting out of seoul as long as you are within a 1-2 trip there is becoming more attractive. Please don't ask me where this is because I have put forward a friend and really want to see him get the job. That's the other part of getting in a uni-insider help. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Definitely send out applications to Uni programs outside of Seoul. They'll take more risks in hiring new or relatively unqualified people, and then you'll have the uni level experience that'll get you hired in Seoul. Put up with the boonies for a year, do your time, and then reap the benefits. |
well I have taught two years at a university in the United States. Isn't that experience good enough? Well I have applied to Pochon University, Cheju, Chungnam, and Kyonggi University. So I don't know where that will put me? I bet that I get hired to work at Cheju University. Or is that a popular place?
I really don't want to work at a hangwon!!! |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I have no problem working in the boonies. I just want to work at a university. I don't want a hogwon job with 10 days vacation. I want to be able to travel during vacation time.
I really want to go to Napal this summer. I am thinking about doing some volunteer work there and then climbing in the Himalays.
Is Daegu and Jeju island far enough away? How is life there? will i be really bored? I mean I can't speak Korean. |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
well I have taught two years at a university in the United States. Isn't that experience good enough? |
To be brutally honest, I have never heard of anyone being hired at a uni to teach English while out of country. For most non-hagwon jobs, they place great importance on experience "in country", as well as being available to interview in Korea before making a decision.
You probably know that Koreans place great importance on appearance. To hire someone with just a phone call, resume and photo, well, that's a bigger risk than most unis I know will take. Hagwons will, because the risk in hiring "sight-unseen" is mitigated by the lower salaries and longer hours.
Perhaps if you had experience in Japan or Europe, they might shortlist you, but "overseas experience" at a hagwon or uni is something they're usually looking for.
If you can't get in at a uni, consider the regular school system. I hear those teachers are given more respect, and treated like real teachers, than in most hagwons. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: what i did |
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I graduated with an MA TESOL from San Jose State. In that time I did my student teaching at a Community College and had tutored throughout my course.
My plan of action was to come to Korea and work a year in a Hogwan and then to go on from there to a University. I chose a hogwan that instructed Korean Businessmen and University students. I worked 40-47 classroom hours per week. Toward the end of my contract I posted my resume on Dave's and immediately got an interview and was hired on at a University.
That one year helped me get my feet wet and provided a strong reminder as to why I am so grateful that I work in a University. You never hear me compalining at the University. So, I think the basic hogwan expereince is a big positive. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: Re: what i did |
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| MASH4077 wrote: |
I graduated with an MA TESOL from San Jose State. In that time I did my student teaching at a Community College and had tutored throughout my course.
My plan of action was to come to Korea and work a year in a Hogwan and then to go on from there to a University. I chose a hogwan that instructed Korean Businessmen and University students. I worked 40-47 classroom hours per week. Toward the end of my contract I posted my resume on Dave's and immediately got an interview and was hired on at a University.
That one year helped me get my feet wet and provided a strong reminder as to why I am so grateful that I work in a University. You never hear me compalining at the University. So, I think the basic hogwan expereince is a big positive. |
If for no other reason than to figure out the culture a bit. But 47 hours a week? Hell, I worked half of that at my first hagwon, and was dog-tired. |
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SeoulMan6
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Here's a university job that only requires a Bachelors degree. It needs to be filled by someone who can start December 26.
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=15455
The Director prefers a female instructor, but all resumes are welcome. Send your resume and be prepared to interview this week. A decision will be made soon.
The base salary is low, but the yearly total is 24-26 million won + severance + airfare. Plus 10 weeks vacation! |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulMan6, thanks for the info. I will have my Master's at the beginnning of December. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Where is that university? Also they prefer a female and someone who is in Korea? I don't know that I stand a chance. I am a man and am not in Korea. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulMan6, do you by chance work at this university? Would they possibly except someone who will start on December 27? You see I already have a ticket to leave for Korea on December 26, arriving December 27. |
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