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[fiveeagles]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/13/nkorea.hiddenvideo/index.html

You can watch the movie if you go to the main page.

[cruisemonkey]

What main page?

[fiveeagles]

The main page of CNN, but it probably has moved by now.

[Ryst Helmut]

[stat]

I forget if the US has a higher execution rate than China. But it does have the world's highest incarceration rate, right? This all stinks of hypocrisy. We all know that the US has been guilty of torture either by it's own hands or by proxy for years and publicly continues to this day.

My question though:
are US executions public? I seem to recall hearing that they were either public once, or that interested parties were allowed to watch the frying process.

ps to answer the poll question: yes, I think it will one day be democratic. But what sort of time frame? Who knows. Probably not in the next ten years. But who knows? Unless Jong-il announces a major oil discovery soon I can't see the US being bothered deploying the usual 'bomb them to democracy' strategy.

[Hater Depot]

Executions in America were public a very long time ago. Then they were moved behind prison walls but on the grounds, not inside. About the time of the invention of the electric chair they moved indoors for good.

An execution today is generally attended by about 15 people (I've been in an execution chamber and it couldn't accommodate much more than that). Family members of the condemned and the victim, a reporter or two, and officials. When Timothy McVeigh was executed an exception was made -- several hundred survivors and relatives of the dead were allowed to watch on closed circuit television (which was not recorded). Those who want them made public again are a tiny minority I'm sure.

We do have the world's highest incarceration rate (though international comparisons are never easy) but China is by far the world leader in executions.

And as much as I'm opposed to the death penalty I'm not going to say that there is anything close to equivalence between us and China. We execute only for murder, and there is a large and complex system in place to prevent wrongful executions. Most of our death sentences are in fact never carried out.

China executes for a wide variety of crimes, and summary executions are reportedly common. As is selling the organs of the condemned.

[stat]

Great reply Hater Depot, thanks for the links

[fiveeagles]

HD, do you know the amount of persecution of Christians by the Chinese? You always hear that China is killing/torturing Christians. In Paul's Marshall's book, "their blood cries out", he estimates many are being killed.