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Bo Peabody
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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| Bo Peabody wrote: |
I've caught bits and pieces of Lee Perry. I'm a big fan of his Black Ark Studio work: You know, the meticulously detailed production... strange sound effects creeping about in the background while the slow bass is rumbling along...
I want to buy some albums.
Which one should I begin with? |
That's a tough one, as he's made a lot of albums. It sounds like you want some dub though. If you want something from his Black Ark era, go with Double Seven or DIP Presents the Upsetter. The best thing about Perry is the number of musicians he's worked with. Everyone knows Police and Thieves with Junior Murvin. Really, don't be afraid of getting a compilation featuring his collaboration with other musicians.
My favourite dub artist is Augustus Pablo with his signature melodica sound. If you want something a bit more upbeat and clubby, check out Big Youth, the king of punky reggae.
You know, Lee Perry could have come to Korea in summer 2004. He was on tour and went through Japan. He was touring with Mad Professor, who actually did come to Seoul for one gig. I would've killed for him to come here; I thought he was dead. |
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Bo Peabody
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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xeno439
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| I'll go with King Tubby, but I do love Pablo's melodica sounds. BTW, where can I hear some dub in Seoul? |
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IchiTK
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Location: on my way...
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Man, there��s a lot to explore in the universe of dub and roots.
Check out this this album:
"Heart of the Congos"---Produced by Lee Perry the Upsetter on a TEAC 4 Track, this album is a masterpiece, a true classic. A must-have in any Lee Perry collection.
Some other great dub producers you might want to check out if you��re really into the genre include:
--the already-mentioned King Tubby, who was arguably the originator of dub.
--Scientest, one of Tubby��s early proteges
--Prince Jammy, also got his start with Tubby
--Mad Professor, a prolific producer who��s worked with Perry
--Adrian Sherwood, a Brit who has produced many amazing and original projects over the years, including Dub Syndicate and African Head Charge.
This aughta help get you started. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Just get Arkology. The 3 CD box set. It's got all his best tunes.
.......Many a happy day was frittered away with Arkology on the stereo and a suspicious looking cigarette....
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Bo Peabody
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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At the moment there really isn't any place for good Jamaican music in Korea. You can hear the best of the '80s reggae at Reggae Pub in Itaewon, but they don't know reggae from their asses. I bet even a request for Lee Perry would have them going "huh?"
The only band that plays a sound loyal to the roots is Kingston Rudy Ska, who do more of a bluebeat sound. There are a few others but they do mostly ska-punk and Sublime-rock.
I'm planning (read: working up the courage to ask a promoter) to host a reggae party at a nightclub sometime in the near future. The Korean underground scene is sadly behind most other Asian countries when it comes to reggae/ska/dub/rocksteady/etc.
The two '70s reggae compilations I recommend before anything else are Punky Reggae Party and High Explosion, both double-CDs and both on Trojan Records. They'll change your life.
http://trojanrecords.com/ |
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| dunno about albums but songs "chase the devil out of earth" and "police and thieves" are great although you've probably heard 'em. download some stuff and get back to us with the results - recommendations etc - because i reckon Perry rocks too. i've got a big compilation tape back home that was taped from a quadruple CD! that had some great and not-so-great stuff on. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
At the moment there really isn't any place for good Jamaican music in Korea. You can hear the best of the '80s reggae at Reggae Pub in Itaewon, but they don't know reggae from their asses. I bet even a request for Lee Perry would have them going "huh?"
The only band that plays a sound loyal to the roots is Kingston Rudy Ska, who do more of a bluebeat sound. There are a few others but they do mostly ska-punk and Sublime-rock.
I'm planning (read: working up the courage to ask a promoter) to host a reggae party at a nightclub sometime in the near future. The Korean underground scene is sadly behind most other Asian countries when it comes to reggae/ska/dub/rocksteady/etc.
The two '70s reggae compilations I recommend before anything else are Punky Reggae Party and High Explosion, both double-CDs and both on Trojan Records. They'll change your life. |
I generally agree with your picks & opinions, this post and the previous, and I wish you luck with the reggae party idea. Sounds fun!
However, about the comment I've underlined -- Really? That would surprise me. "behind most other Asian countries", is it? I'm not doubting this from a Korea-defender perspective, but out of a simple ignorance/disbelief that most countries in Asia (excluding their ex-pat communities) have any sort of reggae/ska/dub/rocksteady scene to speak of.
I'd be amused to discover that Thais are big on rocksteady, or Sri Lanka is a ska-lover's paradise, or that Indonesia has a thriving roots reggae scene, or that Laos has its own Augustus Pablo Fan Club. But it would floor me. Or does "most other Asian countries" here mean Japan, Korea, Taiwan & Hong Kong? I'm nit-picking, but then again I'm not. I mean, what do most people think when they see the word "Asia"?
Back to topic, I had Wizdom 1971-1975 on earlier tonight, which I believe is the first time in 2006 that I've played anything recorded after the 1940s or early '50s. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
At the moment there really isn't any place for good Jamaican music in Korea. You can hear the best of the '80s reggae at Reggae Pub in Itaewon, but they don't know reggae from their asses. I bet even a request for Lee Perry would have them going "huh?"
The only band that plays a sound loyal to the roots is Kingston Rudy Ska, who do more of a bluebeat sound. There are a few others but they do mostly ska-punk and Sublime-rock.
I'm planning (read: working up the courage to ask a promoter) to host a reggae party at a nightclub sometime in the near future. The Korean underground scene is sadly behind most other Asian countries when it comes to reggae/ska/dub/rocksteady/etc.
The two '70s reggae compilations I recommend before anything else are Punky Reggae Party and High Explosion, both double-CDs and both on Trojan Records. They'll change your life. |
I generally agree with your picks & opinions, this post and the previous, and I wish you luck with the reggae party idea. Sounds fun!
However, about the comment I've underlined -- Really? That would surprise me. "behind most other Asian countries", is it? I'm not doubting this from a Korea-defender perspective, but out of a simple ignorance/disbelief that most countries in Asia (excluding their ex-pat communities) have any sort of reggae/ska/dub/rocksteady scene to speak of.
I'd be amused to discover that Thais are big on rocksteady, or Sri Lanka is a ska-lover's paradise, or that Indonesia has a thriving roots reggae scene, or that Laos has its own Augustus Pablo Fan Club. But it would floor me. Or does "most other Asian countries" here mean Japan, Korea, Taiwan & Hong Kong? I'm nit-picking, but then again I'm not. I mean, what do most people think when they see the word "Asia"?
Back to topic, I had Wizdom 1971-1975 on earlier tonight, which I believe is the first time in 2006 that I've played anything recorded after the 1940s or early '50s. |
Speaking about Japan anyway, yes, they know and love thier reggae, in the cities at least, there is a real live scene with homegrown reggae and dub bands, and also clubs that spin the stuff. Now, of course it's not Jamaica, or even New Zealand, but it's significantly ahead of Korea. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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| Satori wrote: |
| Speaking about Japan anyway, yes, they know and love thier reggae, in the cities at least, there is a real live scene with homegrown reggae and dub bands, and also clubs that spin the stuff. Now, of course it's not Jamaica, or even New Zealand, but it's significantly ahead of Korea. |
Sure, Japan. But that's not really saying much. (A) It's not "most other Asian countries", and (B) I think we all know Japan is streets ahead of Korea in this respect.
Speaking of Japan, several years ago a friend was trying to find a particular style or genre of music in Korea. Couldn't find it in any shops, never heard it on the radio, and couldn't find any Korean company that was the least bit interested in distributing or promoting it.
Went to Japan and found no fewer than eight record labels dedicated to that very type of music, radio shows featuring nothing but, countless bands across the country performing it, many clubs in every big city catering to it, etc., etc. Essentially unknown in Korea, though. |
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Bo Peabody
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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Bo Peabody
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: Re: Lee 'Scratch' Perry |
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| Bo Peabody wrote: |
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| Back to topic, I had Wizdom 1971-1975 on earlier tonight, which I believe is the first time in 2006 that I've played anything recorded after the 1940s or early '50s. |
Could you give us a sneak peek into your old-old-school collection? I'm thinking delta blues or some choice cuts from the Rodgers and Hart catalogue. |
Sure, I'd be happy to. Though it's a fairly long flight from Lee "Scratch" Perry.
Okay, I've written & deleted two lists already. Dumb waste of time, really. The simplest thing is to refer you to that Jazz Music thread from a few weeks ago. (Wasn't it you who also launched that thread?) I posted a long list of names there, if you'd care to dig that up. My picks look rather out of place, however, alongside all the "free jazz" and "cool jazz" artists that other posters were naming.
My list is full of big band & swing musicians, singers & composers, and very popular ones, too. So popular that I only bothered giving their first names, since I figure most people can identify them from that alone. And perhaps so popular as to be un-hip, pedestrian and lowbrow in the eyes of many. Not as seriously regarded by aficionados of the "crucial", the "influential", the "iconoclastic", the "edgy", the "under-recognised", the "he suffered for his art" type of creative musical genius.
I'll readily admit that I have two... prejudices or handicaps, I think they are, in appreciating most (though not all) types of post-classical music. First, I'm less interested in the obscure, unsung, unshaven, "true artist" whose early pioneering work inspired the later chart-busting hits, careers and fortunes of the BIG NAMES -- than I am in those BIG NAMES and their music. I'm sure we all know the type of armchair musicologist/archivist/know-it-all who's always going on about, "Hey, if it wasn't for ol' Tyrone "Iron-butt" Jefferson, there'd never have been a Louis Armstrong -- think about that!" *yawn*
Second, I generally cannot "hear" this music by itself and wholly separate from its historical, geographic or cultural setting. People talk about music or certain kinds of music being "timeless" and "universal", but to me it's not. And I don't even want it to be. To me it's inevitably an historical and cultural artefact of a particular time and place. And if I personally don't find that era or place interesting or if it has no resonance with me, then the music itself just won't have the same impact or appeal.
So, if there were some hugely talented and creative group of, say, jazz musicians out on the West Coast of America in the 1970s who broke down all known boundaries of jazz, broke the sound barrier, and broke their necks in the process... Well, good for them. But really, don't trouble yourself playing anything of theirs for me, because honest to *beep*, West Coast America in the 1970s captivates my imagination like week-old bathwater. By the same token, I can listen to some of theee most derivative, hackneyed, stereotypical orchestrations by Cuban-American bandleader Desi Arnaz (yeah, Ricky Ricardo!!) from NYC in the 1940s -- and LOVE IT!!
Would that I could appreciate every sort of music purely on its own merits, my tastes and my collection would be very different than they are.
At Parties: CELEBRATORY. jump blues, jive and swing from the 1930s-40s, some '50s. Friends will hijack the playlist occasionally, but most people end up enjoying it contrary to initial reactions. And as they're soooo not likely to hear it anywhere else, it's... I like to think it's a pleasant change, or at least a novelty for them.
At Work: LIGHT, NON-DISTRACTING. a lot of tradtiional stuff set to a low volume. Gershwin, Berlin, Porter, and yeah, soundtracks & musicals. (pre-1950s, that is)
Rest of the Time: WHATEVER MY MOOD. All the above, plus my list on the Jazz Thread. |
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