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The Spouse and Non-Teaching Jobs?

 
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twoofus



Joined: 19 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: The Spouse and Non-Teaching Jobs? Reply with quote

Hi guys!

I have a few questions...

1. Up until a few days ago, my husband and I believed that he could be a teacher even with a degree (he has a college certificate, and a TESL certificate). We're thinking that's not true - do you NEED a degree to teach in Korea?

2. So let's say this is the scenario. If that's true, is anyone working in Korea as a teacher, with their spouse who is on the family Visa? If he got this Visa, could he not work in Korea (non-teaching)?

3. If I came to teach and he came to hang out (and maybe further his web design company, since I don't think that would be considered working while on his Visa?), would we still be able to pay some school loans or would we be po'? Smile

Thanks everyone!
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a college certificate? How is that different from a diploma/bachelor's degree?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious about the certificate thing, too.

You must have a college diploma to teach in Korea. It's about the only requirement. But it is a requirement.

There are some jobs outside of teaching. Not very many, but some. As far as I know, they all require a college diploma, too. We are limited in what jobs we can get--the employer must convince the government that no Korean is available for that job. That limits things.

Could you save money if only one of you taught? Yes, you could. Not as much, obviously, as those who are only supporting one person on one income, but yes, you could do it. Most manage to save about 50% of their monthly income. Unless your hubby eats $1,000 worth of food a month, you should be able to get by just fine. You would have to convince an employer to provide you with an apartment large enough for two people. That might present a problem with a few employers, but I don't think it's a major stumbling block.

The key here is that diploma. Is a certificate something less than a diploma?
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Doodly



Joined: 21 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the US, a "college diploma" can refer to a university degree (a.k.a. diploma). In Canada, a "college diploma" almost always means a two-year diploma from a college, which is not a university and does not usually grant degrees. A certificate usually takes one year or less at a college (private/public/community college). Some universities do offer some certificate programs but they aren't equivalent to a degree.

To teach in Korea, you need a three or four year university degree. I save about 75% of my income, living with my spouse who is also teaching. Sorry, can't tell you anything about spousal visas.
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Karabeara



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Location: The right public school beats a university/unikwon job any day!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So can a Canadian person have a 4 year degree in whatever, then get a 2 year one in English at a teachers college and say they have a teaching degree? I am only curious because I had a co-worker who said her teaching degree was from a teachers college. I think in the US, people have to get a BA plus some kind of other certification, right? Or is it the same? Not that it matters either way, just wonder.
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dreaming_saturn



Joined: 26 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karabeara wrote:
So can a Canadian person have a 4 year degree in whatever, then get a 2 year one in English at a teachers college and say they have a teaching degree?

I think that's how it works in some provinces in Canada, a B. Ed would be after getting the University degree.

I am also thinking about coming to Korea with my husband, but he's a non-native speaker and actually not looking for work (he can continue what he's been doing via the internet, a programmer) - The whole idea of teaching is not even being considered Smile Is anyone else in the same situation? Is is possibe get your spouse a visa, even if he isn't working? All we really need is a fast internet connection and a place that two people can live in.. Any info from those who have been there would be appreciated.
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twoofus



Joined: 19 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Any non-teaching spouses? Reply with quote

Thanks everyone!

A certificate is earned after a one-year program - in this case my husband studied Art Fundamentals, and then began a Photography diploma but didn't finish the program.

Dreaming Saturn - that's exactly what I'm talking about. Ideally, he could do something in Korea, I don't know what - maybe work in a school without teaching? I've read, however, that it is possible for spouses of teachers to get a VISA - I think it's an F3 Visa (Family Relative Visa), but that they can't work for a year. Currently, m'honey is a web designer and he could continue that work, I imagine (because although he would be working in Korea, he would be working on web sites through his Canadian-based business, and probably not for Koreans.)

So is anyone else out there doing this? Smile We have always planned to both go and teach, but maybe it would be all right if I was the only one teaching and he was furthering his web experience.

* phew *
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Doodly



Joined: 21 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, original poster, the below post is off-topic.

Karabeara wrote:
So can a Canadian person have a 4 year degree in whatever, then get a 2 year one in English at a teachers college and say they have a teaching degree? I am only curious because I had a co-worker who said her teaching degree was from a teachers college. I think in the US, people have to get a BA plus some kind of other certification, right? Or is it the same? Not that it matters either way, just wonder.


"Teacher's College" in Canada (all the ones I know about) is really just a part of a university. After getting a university degree, one could go on to a one or two year program in a teacher's college at a university. It's more like upgrading a bachelor's degree in 'whatever' to a Bachelor's of Education. You can't get a bachelor's degree "in English" at a teacher's college. To be an English teacher at the middle school or high school level, the English credits would have been gained during the bachelor's degree studies and then the B.Ed would be completed. The other option is doing a four or five year Bachelor of Education degree at a university's teacher's college, which would be a mix of general education courses and education courses. Your friend has a degree from teacher's college, but it was actually granted by the university where she attended teacher's college. e.g. She went to teacher's college at the University of British Columbia or she went to the "OISE" teacher's college at University of Toronto. Funny system, but as far as I know that's how it works.
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