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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Paying taxes on mail? Reply with quote

I got a call from the post office Saturday saying they have a package my parents sent me. They said it's clothes and a digital camera, and that I must pay about a 44,000 won tax when they deliver it to my hagwon Monday. Is that normal? I got a package from my parents before and paid no tax.

What happens if I refuse to pay the tax and just take the package and tell the delivery guy to *beep* off?

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Q.
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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in canada there is no duty on gifts. it's a gift, fer chrissakes.

when i used to order records from american punk labels they'd always label the package "gift" and i didn't have to pay duty.

not that korea is known for being all that sane, but it seems rather insane to force you to pay tax on a gift.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should a gift be tax-free?
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
in canada there is no duty on gifts. it's a gift, fer chrissakes.

when i used to order records from american punk labels they'd always label the package "gift" and i didn't have to pay duty.

not that korea is known for being all that sane, but it seems rather insane to force you to pay tax on a gift.


So in Canada, you'd pay a tax on records, if they weren't labeled as gifts? I never paid tax for mail in the US, even records from Canada.

Maybe if I tell the post office it's a gift, they'll remove the tax? Anyone know about this?
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would a gift be tax-free?
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chiaa



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Paying taxes on mail? Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
I got a call from the post office Saturday saying they have a package my parents sent me. They said it's clothes and a digital camera, and that I must pay about a 44,000 won tax when they deliver it to my hagwon Monday. Is that normal? I got a package from my parents before and paid no tax.

What happens if I refuse to pay the tax and just take the package and tell the delivery guy to *beep* off?

Thanks,
Q.


They send rather large muscle type mail carriers to deliver packages that require tax to be paid. You will get your head stomped and then the police will show up to arrest your ass.

The reason why you had to pay tax this time is because your mom wrote down the amount the package was worth because if it got lost she wanted to be able to collect the correct amount of insurance.

They did not pull the 44.000 won out of thin air (hard to believe I know). The import/export guys really have their act together in this country.

Any package over 125.000 Won including the price of the postage is subject to tax in this country.
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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
uberscheisse wrote:
in canada there is no duty on gifts. it's a gift, fer chrissakes.

when i used to order records from american punk labels they'd always label the package "gift" and i didn't have to pay duty.

not that korea is known for being all that sane, but it seems rather insane to force you to pay tax on a gift.


So in Canada, you'd pay a tax on records, if they weren't labeled as gifts? I never paid tax for mail in the US, even records from Canada.


not tax, but duty.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Paying taxes on mail? Reply with quote

chiaa wrote:
They send rather large muscle type mail carriers to deliver packages that require tax to be paid. You will get your head stomped and then the police will show up to arrest your ass.

The reason why you had to pay tax this time is because your mom wrote down the amount the package was worth because if it got lost she wanted to be able to collect the correct amount of insurance.

They did not pull the 44.000 won out of thin air (hard to believe I know). The import/export guys really have their act together in this country.

Any package over 125.000 Won including the price of the postage is subject to tax in this country.


grrr.. Okay, thanks for the info.

You serious about them sending muscle men to deliver?


Wangjabyeong, stop being an attention wh0re. There's no reason to repeat a rhetorical question.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt the post office is out to screw people over. Besides, 44,000 for clothes and a video camera is well worth it.

But, I'm like you. I'd be asking.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wangjabyeong, stop being an attention wh0re. There's no reason to repeat a rhetorical question.


It is not rhetorical.

I really would like to knowwhy people think a gift would be tax free.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know why duties are issued for mail? It seems completely unfair to me. Why should I pay to receive certain things but not others? It makes no sense.

All I can think of is that the purpose would be to prevent people from importing cheaply-purchased goods and reselling them here for profit. Is that the reason for duties?

If so, then it seems Wangja��'s question would have an answer after all, in that a gift is not for resell. But, of course, it would be impossible to prove such.

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Besides, 44,000 for clothes and a video camera is well worth it.


Not really. Maybe for the clothes, since I can't find decent digs in Korea, but for the camera my parents could've put cash in my bank account and told me to buy a camera in Korea. It would've been cheaper that way, by at least 40,000 won, plus whatever shipping costs. Oh well.

Q.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
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Wangjabyeong, stop being an attention wh0re. There's no reason to repeat a rhetorical question.


It is not rhetorical.

I really would like to knowwhy people think a gift would be tax free.


I did some work for UPS (for a very short while) and some other customer service jobs where I found out that if you claim something is a gift when you send it across an international border then you don't have to pay any duty. Why? Probably because it's not a re-sale item or something. Not sure. I'm am sure, however, that there is a dollar limit. Anything above that dollar limit would be subject to tax or duty.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this page, which says my camera is subject to 20% total duty. There are some exemptions listed, but it doesn't say anything about gifts.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at that quickly. I didn't see anything about gifts either. The only experience I have with that is between Canada and the US.

I've gotten a few parcels here and in Taiwan with clothes and bathroom products. I didn't have to pay a tax. Probably no tax on those items. Could have to do with weight in some cases as well.

Could this have been paid at the sender's end? I think that all duties/taxes, etc. were paid by the sender in my case. Not sure how that works.
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huck



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it matters if they claim it's a gift. Otherwise, you could claim everything is a gift, and no one would ever pay duty tax. I had a new laptop sent over, and my brother marked it down as a used gift, but I still had to pay. Just assume that you have to pay duty taxes on anything over a certain amount.....

And if it's an electronic item, even if you lie about how much it's worth, sometimes before they give it to you, they're going to check online and find out how much it's really worth, and charge you that amount. Luckily for me, they looked up my laptop, and found a bare essentials one....so it was actually worth less than my brother claimed, when really it was worth about double what he said.
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