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mishlert

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:31 am Post subject: Uproar Over Firing of Teacher Who Showed R-Rated Film |
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The screening of an Oscar-nominated movie about the life of Queen Elizabeth I to students in an advanced class on British literature has resulted in the forced resignation of an admired teacher in the Atlanta suburb of South Gwinnett. On Tuesday, students in Ed Youngblood's class mounted a protest. "If 'First comes learning' is true, why do you get rid of the guy who holds that motto the best?" one senior in the class told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. A spokeswoman for the Gwinnett County Public Schools told reporters that Youngblood chose to resign after he was told that an investigation had begun into the screening of the R-rated film, 1998's Elizabeth, starring Cate Blanchett in the title role. "Mr. Youngblood did not ask for a local review of the film prior to showing it, nor did he allow parents the option of opting their students out of the viewing," she told the Gwinnett Daily Post. Youngblood, who had taught at the school for 37 years, said that he was given five minutes to choose between resigning or being fired. "I didn't think about it being R-rated," Youngblood said. "It's such a good movie." (Besides receiving seven Oscar nominations, including best picture, Elizabeth also won the BAFTA award for best British Film, a best actress award for Blanchett and a supporting-actor award for Geoffrey Rush.)
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Another embarrassment for any American who isn't a complete idiot. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Another embarrassment for any American who isn't a complete idiot. |
That's a pretty dire assessment.
Why don't you think about how WELL the idiots are doing.
1) If these kids were 15 (i don't know ANYTHING about when a brit. lit class would start...sorry...tiny private high school for me) it WOULD have been a good idea to tell the parent's about it.
i THINK i'm reading it's high school though. It sounds like pathetic mothers and fathers aren't willing to realize that little johnny is boinking the neighbour's wife, smokin' crack outta the silver, and, seeing b0Qbies.
sigh...sad state
2) this guy worked ther 37 years (let's guess he was popular with students) and he's getting the boot because of showing a movie to children who were 365 days too young to watch it????
That is some kind of mis placed fucking priorities.
my f-i-l was in a similar situation...never having raised his hand to a kid...rarely to never even touching them (incl a pat on the back for a job well done)...then boom, a year before retiring accusations came outta nowhere and i think 3 parents called for his blood and the principal TOTALLY turned his back...admitting "listen, i know you wouldn't do it but you know....we have to...blah blah blah".
OH WAIT!!! I see. it was in a suburb.
that is enough said.
I wonder why there would be no legal recourse for being fired/forced resignation for so insignificant an event?
if not, there should be.... we gots the letigiousness going on right now...keep it going for the good guys. I mean, 95% of teachers are great, amazing, caring people. nobody sees that for some reason. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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khyber wrote: |
I wonder why there would be no legal recourse for being fired/forced resignation for so insignificant an event?
if not, there should be.... we gots the letigiousness going on right now...keep it going for the good guys. I mean, 95% of teachers are great, amazing, caring people. nobody sees that for some reason. |
Oh, there almost certainly is. Sad thing is, I've seen that movie and can't think of a single reason any high school student couldn't see it. These kids se mor nudity on the nightly news than they'd see in that movie.
Sheer stupidity. |
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krats1976

Joined: 14 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'm not saying that he should have been forced to resign, but I'm actually most shocked that such an experienced teacher wouldn't think of covering his...er... hindquarters by sending home a permission slip. It's simple common sense if you work in US public education. Heck, I let parents know when I was planning to show something PG-13. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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krats1976 wrote: |
Heck, I let parents know when I was planning to show something PG-13. |
In Korea, too? The teachers here will show kids R-rated movies -- usually bootleg copies to boot.
Sparkles*_* |
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krats1976

Joined: 14 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
In Korea, too? The teachers here will show kids R-rated movies -- usually bootleg copies to boot.
Sparkles*_* |
Hypothetically, yeah, here too, although I teach middle school here, not high school like I did in the States, so R-movies are really not appropriate. But, if I was to show something PG-13 that was relevant to the subject matter, I'd let the parents know, both for my own protection and as a nod of respect to the parents. I mean, most probably wouldn't care, but I'm sure some would.
Maybe I should clarify that I'm at a foreign school, not Korean school. Although, most of our students are Korean anyway. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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krats1976 wrote: |
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
In Korea, too? The teachers here will show kids R-rated movies -- usually bootleg copies to boot.
Sparkles*_* |
Hypothetically, yeah, here too, although I teach middle school here, not high school like I did in the States, so R-movies are really not appropriate. But, if I was to show something PG-13 that was relevant to the subject matter, I'd let the parents know, both for my own protection and as a nod of respect to the parents. I mean, most probably wouldn't care, but I'm sure some would.
Maybe I should clarify that I'm at a foreign school, not Korean school. Although, most of our students are Korean anyway. |
I tore the 'College Stud Guide' out of last month's TeenVogue before lending it around - I don't know what decade Korea's in collectively but apart from the handphones it's still the 1960s at my school. I also axed an article from another teenmag about teen lesbians. I was thinking, you know, in Canada I'd probably get in trouble for ripping this out whereas here It's just cya |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: |
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krats1976 wrote: |
OK, I'm not saying that he should have been forced to resign, but I'm actually most shocked that such an experienced teacher wouldn't think of covering his...er... hindquarters by sending home a permission slip. It's simple common sense if you work in US public education. Heck, I let parents know when I was planning to show something PG-13. |
True. But why more than an apology was needed is beyond me... except that this is the era of Dick 'n Bush.  |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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This proves one thing:
that we can't escape administrative pettiness by going back home. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Location: Korea Exited
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I would never teach in the K-12 public school system in the U.S...I really can't think of a crappier job that pays so little with such mandatory credentials/schooling a teacher needs. Plus the public dishes out such little respect to the teachers (mostly from the administrator/parents). The expections that parents/administrator have on teachers to be some f*ckin miracle worker and be perfect 24/7 is ridiculous. Then you get the boot when you make one mistake in your 37 years of teaching. The damn Governator(Ahhnold) of California wants to create propostions to make even more demands on teachers and cut their unions. I'm telling you...I have such a high respect for many of the teachers here in the States who put up with so much bullsht. I could never do it.
Actually I would never work in education with children at all....not worth it.
I read in article that teachers in the U.S have THE most stressful job. |
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Eunoia

Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Location: In a seedy karakoe bar by the banks of the mighty Bosphorus
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
I read in article that teachers in the U.S have THE most stressful job. |
Can you remember where you read that? Give a link? |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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In one of my first substitute-teaching jobs in the US, I had to show the second 45 minutes of Europa, Europa to four classes.  |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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I know a guy who works for a public school in Seoul. The school library had a copy of AMERICAN BEAUTY. That is the movie where the married 40-something man almost gets it on with the naked 18 year-old senior student on his couch. The librarian is like, 'This one looks good. Maybe the students will like this?'
Obviously, they didn't know what was in it when they bought it. Then again, the cover of that DVD has the same naked girl covered in roses................ |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I remember studying heavenly creatures at school. Full on lesbian kissing scenes, girls running around in underwear, going crazy, then killing their mother in a very brutal way. They need to lighten the hell up. |
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