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What's the best way to find a job?

 
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: What's the best way to find a job? Reply with quote

I'm sure this has been asked before, but here's to repitition! Razz


My current contract ends in March next year. I'd like to line up another teaching job before that time, so that I can meet the staff, see the school, see the apartment, etc. I'd like to live in Seoul, somewhere central, though I'm not particular on the exact province.

So what are my best options? Is posting a resume / scanning job postings on the Internet the best route? Is it possible or fruitful to do a door-to-door type thing? Should I ask my current director to call some contacts in Seoul and help me out?

Cheers,
Qinella
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, 48 views and no replies?

No one has a good suggestion?

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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was looking I just tried to cover all bases, and ended up deleting about 10-20 emails a day from people offering jobs at kiddie hogwans. In the end I took a job with a school district. Most of my contacts were through Dave's job board. If you're in Korea you have a huge advantage. Are you looking for hogwan, public school, adult academy, or uni?
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends.........

I think the best way is networking. If you know people who are relatively happy with their jobs then you can find out if their employer is hiring etc.

If you are just going to look on the internet....... good luck to you, but it's a crap shoot. You may find a good job, but the odds are against it. (at least that has been my experience) You just never know what to expect with these job ads. I tend to see all or most of them as somewhat misleading in some way or other.

Talk to people who work at various universities, schools etc. Find out first of all whether or not they are happy with their job and if so, then find out if their employer is hiring. If not, don't dispair. Ask how that person first was introduced to their employer. They may also know some similar types of jobs opening up.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad you didn't want to live near Busan. My apartment here on Geoje Island is two blocks away from the 45-min. ferry to the Nampodong area of that city.

And, after over three years, I'll be finally leaving my great position at this wonderful small hagwon next April.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
When I was looking I just tried to cover all bases, and ended up deleting about 10-20 emails a day from people offering jobs at kiddie hogwans. In the end I took a job with a school district. Most of my contacts were through Dave's job board. If you're in Korea you have a huge advantage. Are you looking for hogwan, public school, adult academy, or uni?


So you just basically put a resume up on the internet and waited for responses? Did you go to the schools physically to check them out?

I'm not really looking for a uni job, because I'm not qualified, but other than that I'm open to really anything.

some waygug-in wrote:
It depends.........

I think the best way is networking. If you know people who are relatively happy with their jobs then you can find out if their employer is hiring etc.

If you are just going to look on the internet....... good luck to you, but it's a crap shoot. You may find a good job, but the odds are against it. (at least that has been my experience) You just never know what to expect with these job ads. I tend to see all or most of them as somewhat misleading in some way or other.

Talk to people who work at various universities, schools etc. Find out first of all whether or not they are happy with their job and if so, then find out if their employer is hiring. If not, don't dispair. Ask how that person first was introduced to their employer. They may also know some similar types of jobs opening up.


That sounds like a good plan. Do you mean just talk to people at Dave's, or actually go to Seoul and walk around trying to find people?

Also, do you think now is too early if I want a job that starts around April/May?

VanIslander wrote:
Too bad you didn't want to live near Busan. My apartment here on Geoje Island is two blocks away from the 45-min. ferry to the Nampodong area of that city.

And, after over three years, I'll be finally leaving my great position at this wonderful small hagwon next April.


Hmm... I've never been to Busan. I'll have to take the train down there and check it out, I think.

Don't know if I could fill your shoes, though. The ideal situation for me is to replace a crap teacher who came to work drunk and didn't shower. Laughing

Thanks for the help, everyone. I'm thinking about talking to my director this week and seeing if he can help. He's the chairman of some hagwon director's board in Daejeon, so he's got a lot of connections.

Q.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella,

I'm in the same boat as you..my current contract expires at the end of March next year and I'll be looking for a position based in Seoul that starts at the beginning or end of April. I guess I'll just keep checking the job boards and maybe post my resume up too, for maximum effect. I think I'll start scouring the boards in December or at the beginning of January.
Anyway, would be interested to hear what other people think and how they ended up finding their jobs.
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: The Best Way? Reply with quote

The best way and only way to find a job is to start looking. Cool
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
When I was looking I just tried to cover all bases, and ended up deleting about 10-20 emails a day from people offering jobs at kiddie hogwans. In the end I took a job with a school district. Most of my contacts were through Dave's job board. If you're in Korea you have a huge advantage. Are you looking for hogwan, public school, adult academy, or uni?


So you just basically put a resume up on the internet and waited for responses? Did you go to the schools physically to check them out?

I'm not really looking for a uni job, because I'm not qualified, but other than that I'm open to really anything.

Q.


I wouldn't say you're unqualified based on your posts here. At any rate, I posted my CV various places but also sent it off to a lot of people. Most of what came back was crap, but I did end up getting a number of good offers. I physically visited four high schools (I was a bit early for uni hiring season). I could have visited one of several adult academies but in the end decided I should go for high school. Getting to see my current school several times in advance and talk to the English teachers was a major factor in my choice. If there are foreigners at your prospective place of work make sure you talk to them.

Best of luck.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean talk to people anywhere and everywhere. On Dave's..OK, but I mean there must be some foreigners working at a university or even other hagwans near you that you could talk to?

I found a good place for meeting other foreigners is my Korean class, usually a good mix of people there. Hagwan teachers, university teachers, school teachers and even a few people with other lines of work.


I don't know your situation though, if you are in a small town it might not be so easy.

Some people would say the bar is a good place.... to each his/her own.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I wouldn't say you're unqualified based on your posts here.


Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm a sociology major with no TEFL certificate and less than one year of hagwon experience. Even if a uni did hire me, I think it would be because they're desperate. I'm thinking about getting certified after my next contract is over, though, or perhaps during it.

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At any rate, I posted my CV various places but also sent it off to a lot of people. Most of what came back was crap, but I did end up getting a number of good offers. I physically visited four high schools (I was a bit early for uni hiring season). I could have visited one of several adult academies but in the end decided I should go for high school. Getting to see my current school several times in advance and talk to the English teachers was a major factor in my choice. If there are foreigners at your prospective place of work make sure you talk to them.

Best of luck.


Yeah, I might just resort to fishing. I'm sure something will come of it, especially since I'm in Korea and can scope the places out on weekends.

Thanks for the advice,
Q.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
Too bad you didn't want to live near Busan. My apartment here on Geoje Island is two blocks away from the 45-min. ferry to the Nampodong area of that city.

And, after over three years, I'll be finally leaving my great position at this wonderful small hagwon next April.

Hmm... I've never been to Busan. I'll have to take the train down there and check it out, I think.

Don't know if I could fill your shoes, though. The ideal situation for me is to replace a crap teacher who came to work drunk and didn't shower. Laughing

If you can't be sober by 1:30 p.m. in the afternoon, when you would be expected to show up everyday at the hagwon, then no wonder you've never made it out of that hole called Seoul. Surprised Busan is nice, and the island of Geoje, 45 minutes away from there, is nicer.

You should visit for the heck of it some day.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP lives in Daejon, not Seoul.
The point about turning up drunk and not showering was not to reflect on the OP's lifestyle, but a witty way of complimenting you. The OP was making the point that your work ethic may be a hard act to follow, and an ideal situation was one where s/he would have to replace a useless drunken bum; hence, maximum respect for minimum effort.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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