Korean Job Discussion Forums

[mithridates]

Well, not exactly. It's still there, but I/we started a new site for a wiki for people living here for a few reasons:
-The Korea wiki is free, and that means that the servers can be slow or simply non-functional at times. That's bad enough when reading it but even worse when editing. This time we're paying for the hosting.
-More control. There will probably be a new skin on the wiki and I can add on plugins whenever I want. I can also directly edit system messages and pretty much control the whole thing. Stats on wikicities were also based on the whole system so we'd be reporting some 10,000 users when on the Korea side of things there were maybe ten, twenty, who knows? It was impossible to tell.

Here's where it is:

http://wiki.galbijim.com

Though it already has more pages than the Korea wiki it's still lopsided because I've been doing most of the content. That's why you get only five results for a search on "Itaewon" but well over twenty when you do a search on "hanja".

Now, this here is going to be the most important page ever:

http://wiki.galbijim.com/List_of_movie_theatres_that_do_not_show_credits

That's a list of the vile movie theatres that will cut the movie off as soon as the credits start rolling. That's usually when the best music starts too. Of course, for the good movie theatres we have this list:

http://wiki.galbijim.com/List_of_movie_theatres_that_show_credits


This is where I'm going to be putting most of my English wiki time into from now on. Since sound files can also be uploaded onto a wiki (.ogg, not mp3 or any other format) a full Korean course would be possible. I'm not going to do that now but I hope to have one on the wiki later on. If anyone has written their own Korean language material they think should be shared you're certainly free to upload it, but remember that there is no copyright on the work once it is uploaded, and it can be edited mercilessly. Of course you could always edit it back with just as little mercy.

[chronicpride]

Furthermore to this, this is an extension of the previously announced Galbijim project, and as Mith had referenced, custom wiki skins are going to be developed for this, likely within the next month or so. So, cosmetically speaking, we're only in our infancy.

[Antmore]

why not just add to wikipedia?

[mithridates]

Wikipedia would delete a lot of the content on the Galbijim wiki, because a lot of it is either too specific or assumes that the reader is in the country.

For example: xxx is a coffee chain in Korea with the main office in Seoul.

Up to there would be the same, but:

To get there, take the subway, get off at line 7 station y, go out exit 5, turn left past the old building where the main office can be seen just above.

That would get deleted in Wikipedia. Other things we can do that they can't:
-Korean language courses
-Pages that start with Korean, like stores that don't have English titles (���õ��)
-word and hanja explanations. Those get done from time to time on Wiktionary but it doesn't have that much Korean.
-'How to' pages. Visa application, conduct at a Korean wedding, etc.
-Individual stores. One coffee shop could have a page on the Galbijim wiki whereas on Wikipedia only large companies are worth writing about. Pages on small companies and individual stores get deleted, and rightly so.

That's a small example of how it's different from Wikipedia. Writing style on the Galbijim wiki is still pretty much the same, no first person writing, articles should be neutral and informative, that sort of thing.

[mithridates]

Actually, now that I think about it this is probably the best way to explain the difference:

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page

Compare that to Wikipedia, both in detail:

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Worf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worf

And in pages that just wouldn't exist on Wikipedia:

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/1989_productions

A page just about what happened in 1989 regarding Star Trek productions.

So just like that but replace Star Trek with Korea.

[Hater Depot]

Does one need to know HTML to contribute?

[mithridates]

No, you could contribute by just typing the way we do on this board. There wouldn't be very good formatting though so I or someone else would go in and make it look nice + add categories.
The only thing one should really know on a wiki is that two square brackets on each side of a word makes it into a link. If the page already exists then it'll be blue, and if it doesn't exist yet it'll be red. Clicking on a red link takes you to a new page where you can start writing right from the beginning.

Hater Depot is a [[poster]] on [[ESL Cafe]] that likes to study the [[Korean]] language.

That would make three links to pages called poster, ESL Cafe, and Korean.

[mithridates]

Also here's the sandbox:

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Galbijim:Sandbox

It's a page you can just fool around with and write anything on without worrying that you'll mess up the wiki.

[Hater Depot]

Awesome. I'm on it.

Is there someplace one can find a list of most-wanted articles? Also I wonder if there are Korea-related articles you specifically don't want, such as about movies or something for which there would already be a perfectly good Wikipedia entry.

[mithridates]

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There's a place for people to do article requests but since we just started there aren't any right now. Technically there's no problem with simply bringing a Wikipedia article the way it is, but if I do that I first I copy it and go over it once myself, adding things that might be important and taking out whatever I don't like.

When I'm not sure what to write I sometimes get an idea of what to do here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Korea-related_topics

But I have a few hundred city pages to put up and I'm also trying to think of how I could figure out this:

http://www.korail.go.kr/ROOT/train/tr007001.jsp

See, it's easy enough to make up a template for a subway line like I've done for the subway here for example that goes on the bottom of every page on the line:

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Template:Busan_subway_line_2

but there are so many lines. I'm thinking that maybe I'll just do it by province, with a separate line for each part of the line like here:

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Template:Seoul_subway_line_1

Hmm, maybe that's what I'll do.