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[freesolo]

Query: What happens to a domesticated dog when it is abruptly thrown into a pack of feral dogs??

One of two things occur. Either the tame dog is killed and eaten or the tame dog immediately adopts feral behavior patterns and lives.

This is similar to what happens when a Western person from a society that values courtesy, honesty and critical reasoning skills is thrust into Korean society.

Either the Westerner is killed off (i.e. leaves and returns to civilization) or the person adopts Korean behavior patterns and exists on the border between tame and feral.

Unfortunately, a Westerner who becomes discourteous suffers emotional distress from constantly disregarding their parents' lifelong admonition to be polite, don't stare, give up your seat for a pregnant women, etc...To whit, they become a feral and unhappy version of themselves.

However, once they allow these feral behaviors begin to "show", as in pushing onto the subway before the others exit, the Koreans (the native feral animals) claim that all foreigners are barbarians.

In conclusion, although foreigners have been diluting the feral society of Korea for decades, the culture is still at least three generations from joining the rest of the civilized world. And since Koreans refuse to believe that any society other than their own is legitimate, this path to civilization will be strewn with self-made roadblocks.

[gdimension]

Bad day?

[Ya-ta Boy]

Having a bad day?

[RACETRAITOR]

You had a bad day or something?

/trifecta complete

[vlcupper]

Did a pregnant woman push you off the subway and then spit at you?

[manlyboy]

Tame, domesticated creatures are often dull and slow-witted. Feral creatures are usually sharp, adaptive and cunning.

[SPINOZA]

I don't see the analogy at all. Westerners essentially tame and domesticated whilst Koreans feral?

On what basis?

You think Los Angeles is tamer than Seoul? Heavens.

Western cities have more incidents of murder than Seoul has incidents of petty theft. That's hardly my definition of tame vs feral, or at least not the way around that's suggested here. So, there's a few Koreans who spit and don't say please or thank you when you open the door for them, okay. A grocery store guy being shot dead for $100 in the cash register by a crack addict seems comparitively mild to being accidently bumped into at E-mart. Western values are of individualism; Korean values more about order and the collective. The OP has it backwards and the notion that Korea is a wild jungle of chaos where it's every man for himself just leads me to the conclusion that authors of these theses have led very sheltered lives indeed. Korea's about as wild as my effin' arse. Gets a bit rowdy in a Galbi joint when the old guys are tucking into their San Gyop Sal and 9th bottle of Soju, mind you. Jeez, complete chaos, I can hardly take any more.

That said, I expected this thread to be totally boring by the title and it was much more interesting, so that's good.

[peppermint]

Most Korean people don't report crimes, unless they see a way to profit from it. When wallets started going missing on my floor at work, absolutely nothing was done about it, except that teachers started carrying their purses with them.

[skinhead]

[SPINOZA]

Skinhead,

You are a man of grasp, guile and good taste.

[skinhead]

[freesolo]

with regard to the post about feral creatures being sharp-witted and adaptable, if I owned a tenement bldg with a rat problem, I would use a feral dog to solve the problem.

If I wanted a safe, positive, open community to raise my children, I would definitely not choose Korea.

One of my adult students returned from N.America after a 2 year Master's program. One of his most pressing problems was all the casual, physical violence his first grade daughter was subjected to at school compared to the "never-hit" kindergarden she attended the previous year in N.America.

The Japanese have the same historical and geographical issues that Korea has, but they have taken the higher road of good manners and clean streets, instead of the "least number of trash bins of any major city in the world" route the Koreans have.

The Koreans can clone dogs and engineer carbon nano-tubules but somehow can't figure out how to fabricate, distribute, and empty trash dumpsters. They have chosen to simply dump their refuse in piles-similar to the Roman tradition of dumping chamber pots out the window.

Thailand is not the 11th largest economy in the world but they at least don't shit where they sleep, i.e. the feral animal behavior.

[manlyboy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[beekeeper3000]

OP: whose responsibility is it to adapt - the tame dog who must become feral to survive or the pack of feral dogs?

btw, i don't think referring to koreans as a pack of feral dogs is socially or morally acceptable. racism is a two-way street, friend. the language of "they" and the "other" leaves out a lot of critical thinking on your part. wasn't all that long ago that blacks in america were being referred to publicly as "animals."

i get a little irritated, too, when someone pushes past me and then stops directly in front of me. but it's been posted here a billion times that you CANNOT JUDGE ALL KOREANS BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF ONE OR TWO.

that being said, you should understand that, as per my opening question, it's sink or swim. so instead of pining away, waiting to go home, either go home now or figure out how to make the best of it. as for me, i try not to go shopping on sundays.