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Free World

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:42 am Post subject: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadians. |
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If all Canadians are on the take and like to lie about it I guess he's right. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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What's a crook like that going to say, it reflects the values of Uruguayans?
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Gord

Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi |
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Free World wrote: |
If all Canadians are on the take and like to lie about it I guess he's right. |
I am curious as to what evidence you have seen that supports the claim he is on the take and likes to lie about it. |
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Bulsajo

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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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The point is... Martin's party's platform is WAY CLOSER to the sentiments and views of more Canadians than ANY of the wacky opposition parties.
Mulroney almost singlehandedly destroyed any effective democratic alternative when he tanked the longstanding Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Free World did not say that Paul Martin is personally on the take-- but the entire Gomery report establishes that the party as a whole has been corrupt and engages in fraudulent and criminal activities with tax monies.
I don't see how the opposition parties are so wacky. Some of them have articulated platforms and competent leaders. We're too quick to believe the fearmongering of the Liberals and the media they dominate.
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Free World

Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Drake Hotel
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi |
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Gord wrote: |
I am curious as to what evidence you have seen that supports the claim he is on the take and likes to lie about it. |
If you mean what evidence supports the fact that his party is on the take and lies about it: Gomery report.
VanIslander: Just because the Liberals tell you that Harper is wacky doesn't mean it is true. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway). |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Man I am supprised that it has take this long to get a vote of non confidence done. I suspected that it would have been done last october. I guess there is a new record for minority government in Canada. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I was 50/50 on how long it was going to last. The Liberals clearly don't deserve all the time they got but most canadians don't want this election at all.
Also what happens if the Liberals win a minority again and then in February the next Gomery report comes out? If it says bad things what are we going to do have a second election in 2006?
What if the Conservatives win a minority? Who in the hell will they partner with to make the government go? The NDP? The Bloc? This election is only going to make things worse is my prediction. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi |
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Free World wrote: |
VanIslander: Just because the Liberals tell you that Harper is wacky doesn't mean it is true. |
His party is wacky. Harper is too spineless to stick to a position, even a wacky one. He has a long track record of that. He is the head of the rubber chicken and the joke is on Canada. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Harper is too spineless to stick to a position, even a wacky one. |
Alternatively, how fortunate we are that the Liberals are firm in their ideological underpinnings and would never change positions (such as promising to abolish the GST, for example) or alter their financial philosophies (unless making deals with the NDP might keep them in power, for example).
Harper, Layton, and Martin. I'm reminded of an old political cartoon where a hunter is standing near three turkeys representing each party, and the hunter mutters, "Rats--three turkeys and only one bullet."
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Hollywoodaction
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Octavius Hite wrote: |
It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway). |
They are simply incapable of accepting the fact Canada is a multicultural society, and thus cannot be governed on the strict basis of judeo-christian principles. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction wrote: |
Octavius Hite wrote: |
It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway). |
They are simply incapable of accepting the fact Canada is a multicultural society, and thus cannot be governed on the strict basis of judeo-christian principles. |
Right. Sharia law would be sooo much better......  |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
The point is... Martin's party's platform is WAY CLOSER to the sentiments and views of more Canadians than ANY of the wacky opposition parties.
Mulroney almost singlehandedly destroyed any effective democratic alternative when he tanked the longstanding Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. |
Harper isn't Mulroney.
I can't believe that any Canadians would want to prop up a corrupt government. Seriously, this is what is wrong with our country? Excellence is no longer considered to be popular.
When will we step into the great destiny that should be ours? It will never happen with a political party that espouses selfish ambition over spirituality. |
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