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Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadians.
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Free World



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadians. Reply with quote

If all Canadians are on the take and like to lie about it I guess he's right.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a crook like that going to say, it reflects the values of Uruguayans?

Ken:>
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Gord



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi Reply with quote

Free World wrote:
If all Canadians are on the take and like to lie about it I guess he's right.


I am curious as to what evidence you have seen that supports the claim he is on the take and likes to lie about it.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051126/COWENT26/TPColumnists/
[this post should not be considered to be a response to Gord's request]
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is... Martin's party's platform is WAY CLOSER to the sentiments and views of more Canadians than ANY of the wacky opposition parties.

Mulroney almost singlehandedly destroyed any effective democratic alternative when he tanked the longstanding Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free World did not say that Paul Martin is personally on the take-- but the entire Gomery report establishes that the party as a whole has been corrupt and engages in fraudulent and criminal activities with tax monies.

I don't see how the opposition parties are so wacky. Some of them have articulated platforms and competent leaders. We're too quick to believe the fearmongering of the Liberals and the media they dominate.

Ken:>
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Free World



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi Reply with quote

Gord wrote:
I am curious as to what evidence you have seen that supports the claim he is on the take and likes to lie about it.

If you mean what evidence supports the fact that his party is on the take and lies about it: Gomery report.

VanIslander: Just because the Liberals tell you that Harper is wacky doesn't mean it is true.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway).
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man I am supprised that it has take this long to get a vote of non confidence done. I suspected that it would have been done last october. I guess there is a new record for minority government in Canada.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was 50/50 on how long it was going to last. The Liberals clearly don't deserve all the time they got but most canadians don't want this election at all.

Also what happens if the Liberals win a minority again and then in February the next Gomery report comes out? If it says bad things what are we going to do have a second election in 2006?

What if the Conservatives win a minority? Who in the hell will they partner with to make the government go? The NDP? The Bloc? This election is only going to make things worse is my prediction.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Martin says his party reflects the values of Canadi Reply with quote

Free World wrote:
VanIslander: Just because the Liberals tell you that Harper is wacky doesn't mean it is true.

His party is wacky. Harper is too spineless to stick to a position, even a wacky one. He has a long track record of that. He is the head of the rubber chicken and the joke is on Canada.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Harper is too spineless to stick to a position, even a wacky one.

Alternatively, how fortunate we are that the Liberals are firm in their ideological underpinnings and would never change positions (such as promising to abolish the GST, for example) or alter their financial philosophies (unless making deals with the NDP might keep them in power, for example).

Harper, Layton, and Martin. I'm reminded of an old political cartoon where a hunter is standing near three turkeys representing each party, and the hunter mutters, "Rats--three turkeys and only one bullet."

Ken:>
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway).


They are simply incapable of accepting the fact Canada is a multicultural society, and thus cannot be governed on the strict basis of judeo-christian principles.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
Octavius Hite wrote:
It's not that Harper is wacky, he's just boring, its that other members of the Conservatives are nutters talking about abortion, gay marriage, evolution and that stuff doesn't fly in Canada (outside of alberta anyway).


They are simply incapable of accepting the fact Canada is a multicultural society, and thus cannot be governed on the strict basis of judeo-christian principles.


Right. Sharia law would be sooo much better...... Laughing
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
The point is... Martin's party's platform is WAY CLOSER to the sentiments and views of more Canadians than ANY of the wacky opposition parties.

Mulroney almost singlehandedly destroyed any effective democratic alternative when he tanked the longstanding Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.


Harper isn't Mulroney.

I can't believe that any Canadians would want to prop up a corrupt government. Seriously, this is what is wrong with our country? Excellence is no longer considered to be popular.

When will we step into the great destiny that should be ours? It will never happen with a political party that espouses selfish ambition over spirituality.
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