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Lao Wai

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: East Coast Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: Tacky with a capital T. |
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Hey there,
I'm curious as to what many of you think about Korean home decorating or style. In Canada and the U.S., the networks have been taken over by home decoration/renovation shows. So, it seems to be what people are talking a lot about nowadays.
When I lived in Korea (Busan) a couple of years ago, I found that Koreans don't really pay much attention to the aesthetics of their homes...on the inside, or on the outside. Now, obviously if you live in a huge apartment complex it's hard to do anything about the outside of your house, but even the houses I saw looked pretty crappy on the outside. I mean, I always thought "would putting some flower boxes under your windows really break the bank?"...or "how about some small potted trees?".
Also, the inside of Korean apartments and houses don't seem to be all that appealing either. From what I've seen in person and on Korean t.v., the apartments have terrible florescent lighting, bare walls (if not bare, a lone calendar hanging from a pink plastic Hello Kitty hook). Also, the furniture was usually hard,orange or aqua marine pleather.
It's not just personal residences either. I found that many new buildings that were built quickly faded in with the old due to the fact that the siding and windows were never cleaned, and the original plants placed around the building left to die. I thought that this was an Asian thing that was unavoidable due to pollution. However, when I moved to a Chinese city, I noticed a lot more care was taken by the municipality as well as the citizens to make the best of their city. In my neighborhood, the houses and apartment buildings had flowers and potted trees around them, and the skyscrapers were gleaming due to regular cleaning.
I guess the reason I've noticed this is because my parents have always had a very good decorating style. Over the years they have really renovated their house so that is is very warm and inviting i.e. put down hardwood floors, nice paint on the walls, crown moulding, nice lamps, etc. I guess "simple" would be a good way to describe it.
I can understand if the lack of style is due to financial constraints. I mean, I wouldn't win any style awards for the dive apartments I had during university. Or, if it's a cultural issue (i.e. perhaps they don't like Western furnishings). But, I don't think the cultural thing flies so much when, I saw beautiful Asian furnishings and paintings when I would go to to furniture stores in the Korean markets. You could make a Korean house or apartment look great using that stuff alone. I remember when I saw a flashback scene from the t.v. show "Lost" that took place at the Korean female's house. It looked quite "Asiany" but really nice. And I thought...I've NEVER seen a Korean house look like that. Granted...she is rich in the show.
I also remember when my parents would send me photos from home and the Korean teachers at my school would gush over my parent's house and say how much they love western decorations.
Now, before anybody tells me about the orange shag carpet that's still in their parent's living room...I know, people have nasty homes in the west too. BUT, that orange shag was in style at one point in time, it just isn't anymore.
On a strange note, I did notice that quite a few bars and restaurants popping up in Korea that had great decor. Nice dark wood, furnishings, potted bamboo plants. I made the comment to a Korean friend that I'd like to have an apartment incorporating some of these ideas...he said "no way" that it wouldn't feel like a house.
Anyway, maybe things have changed since I've left. Any insights? |
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sarahsarah

Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think Korea just needs an Ikea. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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My question is it just a cultural thing about furniture? My in-laws have a sofa but tend to just sit on the floor or on blankets on the floor. The sofa isn't used too much. Has anyone else noticed this? On the other hand, the house doesn't have a lot of clutter. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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In the dozen or so homes I've been in where they had a couch, only one family actually sat on it. The rest just use them as a back rest, I guess.
I mentioned to a good friend that he and his family never sat on the couch when I was there. He said they never did. So I asked why they bought the thing. He said he wasn't sure. It's just that foreigners in magazines have them. The next time I came for a visit, the couch was gone. |
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tacon101

Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Location: seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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sarahsarah wrote: |
I think Korea just needs an Ikea. |
funny because Kosney sells some IKEA products but with incredible markups |
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plattwaz
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Location: <Write something dumb here>
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Most Korean homes I have been in are quite nice -- as in, the furnishings are quality, expensive pieces - there are just very few of them. All but one of the homes I have been in have a HUGE massive living room and it's empty.
One other thing I have noticed is that the really wealthy people whose homes I have been in all include at least one room that has a full wall in the bedroom with shelves in that mother-of-pearl shelving that you see all through Insadong. (And while I think that a small jewellry box is pretty, anything larger than that looks horrible). |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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sarahsarah wrote: |
I think Korea just needs an Ikea. |
I second that. |
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helly
Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: WORLDWIDE
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard that many places, not just Kosney, are selling assembled Ikea products at huge mark-ups as luxury items. My wife saw the same table that we bought our son in the states for about 50 bucks for 250 in Seoul. |
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plattwaz
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Location: <Write something dumb here>
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:22 am Post subject: |
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helly wrote: |
I've heard that many places, not just Kosney, are selling assembled Ikea products at huge mark-ups as luxury items. My wife saw the same table that we bought our son in the states for about 50 bucks for 250 in Seoul. |
Yes and the 49cent tea light (candle) holders are almost man won each. |
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krats1976

Joined: 14 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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sarahsarah wrote: |
I think Korea just needs an Ikea. |
A-freakin'-men.
Actually, it's home furnishing/decorating stuff that makes me the most homesick now (used to be food, but I've dealt with that now). I would give anything for IKEA or Bed, Bath & Beyond.
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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It's the one thing I hate about spending the day at my in-law's. No chairs to sit on and bright flourescent lights all the time.
Yet, I notice everyone is trying to get comfortable. It's not just my whitey ass that hurts from sitting on the floor all day. My wife's family are also constantly changing position to be more comfortable. Get a frickin" sofa!! And a lamp!!
The only time my family at home turned on the main living room lights was when we lost something and had to look for it!! The warm glow of the TV was usually enough light for my family. And maybe a chintzy lamp that my mum bought. With tassles and stuff. |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the culture here is still fresh from recovering from the poverty of a peasant farming culture, and thus are still quite utilitarian about things like furniture. In time they will move on to seeing the aesthetic and artistic side of it.
However one thing I can't excuse is the flouro lights. Whether you're poor or not, ambeince is important! It sets the whole mood of the evening. Flouro light is just horrible, and hard on the eyes, and makes it impossible to relax. Flouro lights in homes is just inexcusable. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Satori wrote: |
Maybe the culture here is still fresh from recovering from the poverty of a peasant farming culture, and thus are still quite utilitarian about things like furniture. In time they will move on to seeing the aesthetic and artistic side of it.
However one thing I can't excuse is the flouro lights. Whether you're poor or not, ambeince is important! It sets the whole mood of the evening. Flouro light is just horrible, and hard on the eyes, and makes it impossible to relax. Flouro lights in homes is just inexcusable. |
I hate those Flouro lights they give me a migraine if I spend too much time in rooms with them in. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Lao Wai wrote: |
On a strange note, I did notice that quite a few bars and restaurants popping up in Korea that had great decor. Nice dark wood, furnishings, potted bamboo plants. I made the comment to a Korean friend that I'd like to have an apartment incorporating some of these ideas...he said "no way" that it wouldn't feel like a house.
Anyway, maybe things have changed since I've left. Any insights? |
Insights? Oh, maybe one or two. Your Korean friend's comment is very telling and probably the most succinct reply I can think of for all the pondering that foreigners get up to (on this thread and in general) on the subject of Korean homes. Here are some of the things I hear most frequently, and which I think foreigners might reasonably wonder:
-- Is it that they don't have the money?
-- Is it that the materials & furnishings just aren't available in Korea at any price?
-- Is it that they don't like Western interior design?
-- Is it that they don't "get" Western interior design?
-- Is it that they can't tell good design (whatever the provenance or inspiration) from bad or non-existent?
-- Seems like they just don't bloody care. Do they bloody care?
-- Dude! What's up with the office lighting in the home??! And I mean EVERY ROOM!! Bedroom, living room, dining room...
-- Back up -- where is the dining room? (yeah, yeah -- it's cultural)
-- Why this jarring disconnect between attractive, well-designed & tastefully decorated commercial space (hotels, bars, restaurants, coffee shops, trendy Hongdae nightspots) and the frumpy/grim/spartan/bare-walled/tacky/uninspired look of most homes?
-- Oh, and how come I've been here years, yet I've never once seen a house or apartment that looked anything like the ones we see every night on the TV dramas? (With the notable exception of your own splendid efforts in this area, of course, Guru. )
As you consider these questions, bear in mind the comment by Lao Wai's Korean friend. I agree with your observations, LW, especially the grimy exteriors -- I don't believe diligent upkeep is one of the Koreans' stronger suits. But I don't much care how Koreans choose to decorate (or not) their homes. I'd be thrilled if they would just start building ones -- from the affordable to the astronomical -- that didn't leak or reek. Or flood. Or crack. Or collapse. They've have been at this game long enough, and when poorer, less-developed, less-educated countries have managed to lick these problems, I'm not so inclined to go on cutting the Koreans any more slack.
Following that, they should look into insulation and some basic energy-efficient design & materials. Then let's consider views, floor plans, positioning & size of windows, etc. And THEN we can all fret about the state of interior design in Korea. That's my order of priorities, any way.
riley wrote: |
My question is it just a cultural thing about furniture? My in-laws have a sofa but tend to just sit on the floor or on blankets on the floor. The sofa isn't used too much. Has anyone else noticed this? On the other hand, the house doesn't have a lot of clutter. |
Yeah, it's a cultural thing. Many people have a sofa because it's a thing to have, it makes the living room look complete, and not because they need somewhere to plant their butts. I've probably seen more Korean kids jumping and wrestling on sofas than adult Koreans sitting on them. In homes, any way.
Satori wrote: |
However one thing I can't excuse is the flouro lights. Whether you're poor or not, ambeince is important! It sets the whole mood of the evening. Flouro light is just horrible, and hard on the eyes, and makes it impossible to relax. Flouro lights in homes is just inexcusable. |
They're cheap. They're plentiful. They're standard. They're what goes. Replace them with soft yellow bulbs or halogen or something else and: "Doesn't feel like a home. Feels like a hotel lobby. A photography studio. A bar. A romantic bar. A room salon. A gallery. A jewelry shop. A bordello. A house of ill repute. A whorehouse. A cathouse. A swanky bachelor's penthouse apartment. A pimped pad."
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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The lights, I can deal with, and the absence of sofas too, but oh what I wouldn't give for some color on the walls! |
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