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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: router, hub or seperate IP? |
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Ive bought another PC, and will set it up in my spare room..
seems the only options are.. HUB, ROUTER, and seperate Ip..
the guys at KT ntophia said, a hub with its own IP for 12000won extra a month will be the best way to go?
you think I will experience serious slow down in pc speed?
I download a lot and so does my wife, so not worrying about money to much. can pay an extra 30.000 if it really makes a huge difference compared to just getting a hub..
what you reckon?
and you suggest a hub or router. which ones?
cheers |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| If you are both going to be using the same P2P programs, then two separate IPs is the best bet. Otherwise only one of the machines will be able to accept unsolicited incoming connections and the other will be substantially slower as it can only generate outgoing connections. |
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steveohan
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: |
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^ im sure you can buy a router and open up specific ports. then open your p2p app and punch in the port you opened up on your router, and voila!
that is of course assuming that you are using an application that allows a certain level of custimization!
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Get a router and get the premium DSL service. Best way to go.
That way you also have some security! |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| If you are both going to be using the same P2P programs, then two separate IPs is the best bet. Otherwise only one of the machines will be able to accept unsolicited incoming connections and the other will be substantially slower as it can only generate outgoing connections. |
this doesnt make scense man?
what you're saying is..
that only one computer can download from the network...
then what you're saying is.. if people are in a office and 8 people are on a hub only one PC can download you saying that the other 7 will suffer major reduced speed, or not even be able to download?
or a pc bang, how is it possible all pcs can download with good speeds?
I dont get what you are saying gord..
I just rang the guys at Kt NTOPHIA and they said, NTOPHIA is the best internet connection in korea, and we will have 2 seperate IPS on the hub so this will not happen! what you say..
anyway thanks for the advice tho.. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
this doesnt make scense man?
what you're saying is..
that only one computer can download from the network... |
No, I am saying that only one computer can accept incoming data requests as a router can only be set to forward data from an incoming port to a single computer.
When you hook up a router, you get a single Internet IP and it creates a second network with new local IPs for everything behind it. When a computer then sends out a data request, the router automatically handles everything to know that incoming data from the site it is connecting to is to be sent back to that computer.
But for P2P programs, data is sent out and unsolicited incoming data connections are arriving. But because no computer has told the router to expect this incoming data from these unknown locations, the router just tosses the data as it doesn't know where to send it.
If you have configured your router with port-forwarding or a DMZ, you can send the data to a single computer and no more. The computer that receives the data meant for the other computer will simply ignore the data if the P2P is not running, or the P2P app will simply reply and say "no data here".
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then what you're saying is.. if people are in a office and 8 people are on a hub only one PC can download you saying that the other 7 will suffer major reduced speed, or not even be able to download?
or a pc bang, how is it possible all pcs can download with good speeds? |
They all have their own Internet IPs and are not sharing a single IP behind a router.
Though even if they were, Internet browsing and file downloading via a browser is initiated by the computer behind the router which then correctly allows tells the router/gateway to forward all data from a specific IP on a specific port to be forwarded to it.
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I just rang the guys at Kt NTOPHIA and they said, NTOPHIA is the best internet connection in korea, and we will have 2 seperate IPS on the hub so this will not happen! what you say..
anyway thanks for the advice tho.. |
NTopia has speeds up of up to 100Mb/s, or at least that is hooked up in my officetel. You can order extra IPs for a small price, and just hook your connection into a $20 switch. Everyone get's full speed and an Internet IP. Victory. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
this doesnt make scense man?
what you're saying is..
that only one computer can download from the network... |
No, I am saying that only one computer can accept incoming data requests as a router can only be set to forward data from an incoming port to a single computer.
When you hook up a router, you get a single Internet IP and it creates a second network with new local IPs for everything behind it. When a computer then sends out a data request, the router automatically handles everything to know that incoming data from the site it is connecting to is to be sent back to that computer.
But for P2P programs, data is sent out and unsolicited incoming data connections are arriving. But because no computer has told the router to expect this incoming data from these unknown locations, the router just tosses the data as it doesn't know where to send it.
If you have configured your router with port-forwarding or a DMZ, you can send the data to a single computer and no more. The computer that receives the data meant for the other computer will simply ignore the data if the P2P is not running, or the P2P app will simply reply and say "no data here".
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then what you're saying is.. if people are in a office and 8 people are on a hub only one PC can download you saying that the other 7 will suffer major reduced speed, or not even be able to download?
or a pc bang, how is it possible all pcs can download with good speeds? |
They all have their own Internet IPs and are not sharing a single IP behind a router.
Though even if they were, Internet browsing and file downloading via a browser is initiated by the computer behind the router which then correctly allows tells the router/gateway to forward all data from a specific IP on a specific port to be forwarded to it.
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I just rang the guys at Kt NTOPHIA and they said, NTOPHIA is the best internet connection in korea, and we will have 2 seperate IPS on the hub so this will not happen! what you say..
anyway thanks for the advice tho.. |
NTopia has speeds up of up to 100Mb/s, or at least that is hooked up in my officetel. You can order extra IPs for a small price, and just hook your connection into a $20 switch. Everyone get's full speed and an Internet IP. Victory. |
this makes sense! thanks! |
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