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delad



Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Location: Dublin

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Gift horse in the mouth Reply with quote

I've been applying for EFL jobs in Korea for 2 weeks now and I have received all kinds of potential offers. Applied for a public school job via email 1-2 days ago. I've heard they're the best gigs. Received a call out of the blue a few minutes ago from ******** recruiting agency offering me a public school teaching position in a big city. I said I was very interested. She said she'd send on the relevant information.
Is this too good to be true Question
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May work out well. Why not consider the contract exactly and see if it suits.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent a couple of months looking for a job. Looking for a good job in Korea is perhaps akin to searching through raw sewage to find a sandwich. If you've lucked-out and got cool stuff very soon, exploit that opportunity. Public school is not a bed of roses. Well, it is for me, but not necessarily for others. What seems beyond dispute, however, is that PS is less of a gamble.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say that a good hagwon is better than a public school for a newbie- mainly because of class sizes and support from peers,but it's not always easy to find one of those.

before you decide on the position, ask the school a few questions:
- will you have a co teacher? ( it's more important for younger kids, because they generally have lower English skills, but it would be good for you to have someone to discuss teaching techniques with too)

- who handles discipline? Koreans generally use corporal punishment in schools and that can be rough to see, nevermind dish out.

- will you use the standard textbooks?
Not all schools do, and if you've got to develop lesson plans from scratch, it might be a big challenge

- has the school had a foreign teacher before? If so, they'll probably know how to handle immigration issues, and will probably be wiling to help you get settled in ( help set up phone, cable, etc).

None of these questions should be deal breakers for you, but they are things you'll want to consider.
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delad



Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Location: Dublin

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice Very Happy
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the most important question

Will your co-teacher be hot
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peppermint is right.

While many on 'Daves' will represent their public school position to be the pinacle of ESL teaching in Korea, all benefits come with drawbacks.

What has not been said is - much will depend on your age, sex and experience. Ask yourself these questions:

Are you prepared to be the only English speaker in your place of employment?... How much Korean do you know?

Can you control 40+ students?

Discipline in public schools can be (to Western eyes) brutal. Are you mentally prepared to stand by and not say anything while a kid is literally beaten with a cane?

I can almost guarantee you will have a co-teacher. He/she could turn out to be your best ally, or your worst, back-stabbing, two-faced, enemy. What if the latter turns out to be true?

Korea is a 'Confuscian' society and Western norms do apply. Hierarchy (and knowing your place within it) is everything. For a first job in Korea, if you're an older male with teaching experience, you may do well in a public school. If you're young and inexperienced (male or female), it could be a disaster.

Good luck... only you can decide if you'll 'fit'.
CM
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
and the most important question

Will your co-teacher be hot


That was a drawing card in the job I took, as I got to meet her before I took it. Unfortunately she wasn't that useful in most classes and I managed to arrange teaching most of them solo. Then she sort of quit / sort of got fired. But was she ever hot. Just remember there are no 'for certains' when applying, lol.

As for the OP, is the school elementary, middle, or high, and is it in a city or in the country? All in all, I'd take my chances with a public school over a hogwan any day, and you're lucky if you can get one from overseas.
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