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jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

How much would a company like LG pay a hagwon for an English teacher to teach 25 students, four hours a day? Does anyone have an idea?

denverdeath · Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn

They should be paying AT LEAST 4mil, but I guess it depends on negotiation. I worked at a middle school in Dae-goo a long time ago through my hakwon...it was (I think) 8 hours a month(1 hour x twice a week) x 2 teachers and they were paid 1mil. Of that, we were given *beep*. Regardless, 25 students getting some kind of instruction for 50Gs/hour is pretty good for LG, in my opinion.

jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

Well, this is a deal my boss mention. He said "Good for you!" It's teaching from 8am - 12pm for almost 2 weeks. Monday to Friday the first week and Monday to Thursday the second week. It's a total of 36 hours, but he's being "generous" and paying me for 40 calling the last Friday a vacation. Anyway, he wants to pay 800,000 following the 20,000/hr regular OT deal. I'm under contract to teach 10 students. These classes are at a local elementary school and he took copies of my passport/ARC to make it official with immigration.

My regular classes are 2-9 with other OT.

I told him today that it's not such a good deal. Another teacher will be doing the exact same thing as me. There are 2 classes of 25 students. We teach 2 hours and then switch. 50 students in all.

Seems to me he's making too much money on the whole deal. He doesn't have to get his drivers to pick up students and he doesn't have to provide any materials. I figure that 30,000/hr is more than fair for this. I at first told him that I wanted 1.1 million and then said that since it's 36 hours that I'd do it for 1 million. Did I act like too much of a wimp? He's really not doing me any favors. Seems like employee abuse to make me teach that many students for only 20,000 and on top of that do my regular classes and other OT. In think in all fairness I should get 60%.

I figure he's getting maybe 7 million in total for 72 hours of instruction, but I could be wrong.

Anway, what do you think? Is 1 million a good figure?

denverdeath · Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn

The 7mil for 72 you mentioned is probably a little high...nearly a 100 per hour. I don't quite understand the set up. Is this a winter camp? Did your boss come up with a proposal for this for the school? Who's paying? The kids' parents, the school, or the ed'n board? Unless it's a really rich school, I think your boss is charging more in the 50,000 range, but I could be wrong. I think 30,000 per class would be fair for you, and at least it's legal. It already sounds like you guys are trying to beat out a deal. He wants to pay you 20-22, and you want to get at least 30. I think your move is next. You could say 1mil or nothing, reduce what you want to an even 950, ot take the 800. Or, maybe an even 900,000(25,000). Does your contract say that you can refuse OT? If yes, then that's one more option for you...but, that may piss your boss off if he's already made an agreement with the school and it also might lose you some extra cash if you want it.

jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

Overtime is an option. I don't have to take it.

Anyway, I'm getting paid 1 million. Boss told me today. It's really only 8, 4-hour days teaching since one day is meeting with the parents and some other B.S. So, 1 million for 32 hours teaching. I was originally going to be teaching at the hagwon everyday for winter camp, 3 hours/day for something like 1.1 or 1.2. This is a lot better. With 5 hrs OT every week on top of the LG classes, it puts me at 3.6 for the month. Wahoo!

denverdeath · Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn

Sounds like you got a good deal. Make sure you get time to recharge your batteries after you finish those winter classes. Don't kill yourself for money.

jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

Wish I just had 2 weeks of classes like that every month. I'll be doing 3 hours/day in the mornings starting next month (9:30-12:30). That's only 20,000/hr. You're right about getting worn out. Even if it's easy. Maybe I can work out a 1.5/hr a day thing instead of 3 next month. That would give me 10 hrs/wk OT. Plenty.

jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

Wish I just had 2 weeks of classes like that every month. I'll be doing 3 hours/day in the mornings starting next month (9:30-12:30). That's only 20,000/hr. You're right about getting worn out. Even if it's easy. Maybe I can work out a 1 hr a morning thing instead of 3 next month. With my extra hours in the evening next, that would give me 10 hrs/wk OT. Plenty.

justagirl · Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Cheonan/Portland

Samsung and LG pay 50,000 per hour, regardless of the number of students--at least in my experience. My husband and I taught a class every morning and pulled in an extra 1 million won a month.

So if you look at it that way, your boss is making 1.56 million off of your 32 hours of teaching, paying you 1 million and making 560,000.

Hope that helps. Very Happy

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bellum99 · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know

He does have a point about the boss making money. Really, all you should care about is if the boss pays you the agreed amount at the agreed time. Teachers spend too much time worrying about the boss making money from their work, and at home they wouldn't even think about it once.

jacl · Joined: 31 Oct 2005

ontheway · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:46 am Post subject:

It's ok to negotiate as long as it's done in a civil, friendly manner. It's important not damage your working relationship. Some things you can't negotiate, they're covered in the contract. Some things are just kind of outside the contract. You must be doing it right or you wouldn't be able to make a deal or get more money. Any accurate information you have about the other party in a negotiation only helps. Congratulations.