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SEOUL= "Bright. vibrant, cosmopolitan metropolis"?
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Do you think of Seoul as being "bright, vibrant, and cosmopolitan"?
Yes, and I'm even from a big city myself
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 22%  [ 9 ]
Yes, but I'm from a tiny little town and find any place with more than a bowling alley to be vibrant.
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
No. Seoul is decent, but not "all that"
47%
 47%  [ 19 ]
No, Seoul is a dirty little hole
27%
 27%  [ 11 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: SEOUL= "Bright. vibrant, cosmopolitan metropolis"? Reply with quote

I have no major problems with Seoul, and it can be quite entertaining. But, I am always somewhat perplexed when people on this board refer to it as something along the lines of a "bright, vibrant, cosmopolitan etc, etc..."

These are just words I would never associate with Seoul. Perhaps it is just because I am from a big city that deserves some of these words, Toronto, so I expect a lot more from a "big" city. (yes, I am aware is the grand scheme of things Toronto is quite small, but it is Canada'a BIG city)

Are the people that are so impressed with Seoul only so because they come from small little places and are bound to be impressed by something so big?
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would call Seoul a "Vast collection of 2 story commercial buildings and monolithic apartments with a cosmopolitan mix of Koreans"
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say bright and vibrant but not cosmopolitan.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not clear what, precisely, is meant by 'bright', and I cannot recall describing it as cosmopolitan, but I think it's certainly vibrant.

I'm from a fairly big city originally, although did move to a more rural area when I was 13, so perhaps the 'in awe because you're from somewhere that sucks' mentality is with me. That said, I've been to London many times, visited Singapore, Istanbul, Milan, Rome, Florence, New York City, Las Vegas, Philadelphia, Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland, Christchurch all since 2000 and I believe I'm qualified to comment on what, in my view, constitutes a cool place.

Comparisons between cities are rather unnecessary in my opinion. Naturally, Seoul, like all cities, has its own unique atmosphere and character.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
It's not clear what, precisely, is meant by 'bright', and I cannot recall describing it as cosmopolitan, but I think it's certainly vibrant.

I'm from a fairly big city originally, although did move to a more rural area when I was 13, so perhaps the 'in awe because you're from somewhere that sucks' mentality is with me. That said, I've been to London many times, visited Singapore, Istanbul, Milan, Rome, Florence, New York City, Las Vegas, Philadelphia, Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland, Christchurch all since 2000 and I believe I'm qualified to comment on what, in my view, constitutes a cool place.

Comparisons between cities are rather unnecessary in my opinion. Naturally, Seoul, like all cities, has its own unique atmosphere and character.


My use of cosmo was inspired from you. The other words come from other posters.

Of course, you are able to comment on what you believe is cool and I have no problem with your, or anyone elses, opinion. I'm just a bit surprised by them and was just wondering why some people thought Seoul was "cool". Seems to me like there are a large number of cities more impressive than Seoul. But of course, that's just my opinion.

I guess the thing to me about Seoul, when I lived there for my 2 years, was that I never had the feeling of "Hey, I'm in Asia." It always just felt like another, average, run of the mill, big city.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My use of cosmo was inspired from you.


I recall saying Seoul is more cosmo than Daegu, but that's not the same as saying Seoul is cosmopolitan.

I really like Seoul. It floats my boat.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
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My use of cosmo was inspired from you.


I recall saying Seoul is more cosmo than Daegu, but that's not the same as saying Seoul is cosmopolitan.

I really like Seoul. It floats my boat.


Ah yes, you're correct.

I just checked again and it was "vibrant" that came from you (inspired BY, not FROM.... ooh, me english good)

I do miss some things from Seoul while in Daegu... pretty women, indian food, the foreigners I knew.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pretty birds in Daegu? That's contrary to the stereotype. Are the apples disgusting as well?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've always heard they were supposed to be good looking down here. I can't find them though.

Quite the change considering the amount of "Oh my God"s "She's unbelievable" I used to throw out in Seoul.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely not cosmopolitan, or sophisticated, in either design or the character of the locals. You can have fun there, but no way does it compare any of the so called "great cities" of the world.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
bright, vibrant, and cosmopolitan

right up there with Paris, yes it is...

Ken:>
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets face it, when people visit North East Asia they are far more likely to go to Japan or China before Korea. Korea is like the Jan Brady of North Asia.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
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bright, vibrant, and cosmopolitan

right up there with Paris, yes it is...

Ken:>


I am sensing some sarcsasm....

(please god, tell me i am sensing some sarcasm!)
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ChimpumCallao



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
Lets face it, when people visit North East Asia they are far more likely to go to Japan or China before Korea. Korea is like the Jan Brady of North Asia.


i agree with you, captain obvious.

i would say seoul is definitely bright, but only at night.

vibrant: no

cosmopolitan is laughable. a homogenous, inward thinking hyper nationalistic culture, cosmopolitan?? a country where it's cool to follow, cosmopolitan??
also, there is no decurum or sophistication in this city...nothing in terms of worldly good food, music or culture...a couple of cutie kangnam teens that are shopping at chanel, driving mercedes, and munching on fondue cannot make up for the millions of loud, abrasive, backwards thinking 'elders' pushing their ways through the subway, burping, farting, and stinking of third grade meat and turpentine, while they openly stare at the blonde woman accross from them like a bunch of baboons.

also, cosmopoltian cultures are not composed of a population whose shoes are all made of plastic.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
crazylemongirl wrote:
Lets face it, when people visit North East Asia they are far more likely to go to Japan or China before Korea. Korea is like the Jan Brady of North Asia.


i agree with you, captain obvious.

i would say seoul is definitely bright, but only at night.

vibrant: no

cosmopolitan is laughable. a homogenous, inward thinking hyper nationalistic culture, cosmopolitan?? a country where it's cool to follow, cosmopolitan??
also, there is no decurum or sophistication in this city...nothing in terms of worldly good food, music or culture...a couple of cutie kangnam teens that are shopping at chanel, driving mercedes, and munching on fondue cannot make up for the millions of loud, abrasive, backwards thinking 'elders' pushing their ways through the subway, burping, farting, and stinking of third grade meat and turpentine, while they openly stare at the blonde woman accross from them like a bunch of baboons.

also, cosmopoltian cultures are not composed of a population whose shoes are all made of plastic.


If so, what is your vibrant city?
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