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Need Help: Going Renegade

 
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beekeeper3000



Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Need Help: Going Renegade Reply with quote

Maybe that's a bit intense for a subject heading, but:

I'm being pushed out of my job, suffice it to say that my boss does not like men. Over the first six months of mycontract she has made it "difficult" to work and enjoy working.

I really like teaching and I feel I am a good teacher - growing and progressing as an an individual and a teacher.

However, this is my first contract in Korea and I am here on an E-2 visa. What can I expect to deal with in terms of relocating? If I find another job, will I have to get a new visa?

I'm confident any contract bonus and/or airfare will be lost. Such is life.

The $hit just hit the fan tonight, so my mind isn't so focused.... Any advie will help.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I will suggest at the moment is to not make a decision about what you want to do when you are mad. Go out for a jog or a trip to a bar or whatever you do to chill. Get a bit of perspective on the whole thing.

Figure out a few things:

Can you afford to tell the bi#tch to sod off?

Where do you see yourself heading?

What do you want to do with yourself?

Simple stuff to kind of decide in what direction you want to go if in fact you can even afford to go anywhere.

If you do want to give her the big F#ck *ff you sorry !@#$%#$ then try to avoid my approach to the problem. I mean sitting down with your boss and smiling as you carve your intials in her desk with a bowie knife may make you feel better, but it is not likely to get her to sign a letter of release.

If are wanting to bail out legally GET LETTER OF RELEASE!

Above all else use Tact..... Diplomacy........ Be firm.... But BE polite.

And seriously leave the following items at home:

Bowie Knife
Machette
Hatchet
Crossbow
Long sword
Swiss Army Knife
meat cleaver
cork screw
sharpened screw driver
board with nail in it
board with nail not in it
nail that should be in board
pistol
shotgun
assualt rifle
num chucks
pepper spray
switchblade
brass knuckles
roll of quarters
sock with bar of soap in it


Basically push all violent thoughts from your mind, and BEE Postive!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she is pushing you out, i.e. intends on firing you, then you have no worries as far as other work as she will cancel your current E-2 when she terminates your contract.

If you did more than 6 months in the contract, the only airfare you will lose on is the one-way ticket home (not to bad). You could also get some sort of pro-rated severance if your contract included such a clause (some do if you negociated it).

All in all, she fires you and you find new work. You have the advantage of being here in Korea so you can scout out the jobs yourself.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you will have to get a new visa if you get another job.
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beekeeper3000



Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

first off, thanks to dan the chainsaw man - a good laugh helped me tremendously. i agree - i'm going to do anything rash.

also, by "pushing me out" i meant "leaning on me to try and get me to quit." as far as i see it, then she doesn't have to sign a letter of release, right?

and what's with this new immigration thing where i can't get a new visa until my current job contract expires? is this really new? that really stuffs a monkey-wrench in my pyjamas.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The accurate information is that you cannot get a new work visa until your current visa is cancelled by immigration.


To do this, you need a letter of release.

Once you get this, your current work visa will be cancelled and you will be free to seek other employment.
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beekeeper3000



Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so then here's a stupid question: how much time to i have here legally after my work visa has been cancelled? i am an american, so i don't have the 3 months all those canadians get.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Canadians get 6 months. Very Happy
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beekeeper3000 wrote:
ok, so then here's a stupid question: how much time to i have here legally after my work visa has been cancelled? i am an american, so i don't have the 3 months all those canadians get.


Americans get a 30 day landing visa. If you apply for a C-3 tourist visa, you'll get 90 days. I'm on a C-3 now, and I don't know how typical this was, but I had to answer questions and show proof of what I was doing (studying Korean at Sogang) as well as proof that I could support myself without working during these 90 days.
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BadEgg



Joined: 08 Jan 2006
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.

2 important details.

Firstly, whether you quit or get fired is irrellevant. Your employer is under no obligation to give you a letter of release in either case. It is entirely up to him/her. So, if you want to get the LOR I would suggest leaving on as good terms as possible and being polite. This may not be what you want to do, but any other approach might be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Secondly, the question of whether you get 3 months or 6 months in the country after you quit/get fired is also irrellevant. You don't get either because you are not on a tourist visa. As far as I remember, with an E-2 visa you must leave the country within 14 days from the time your employer informs immigration that your contract has been terminated. I would strongly suggest checking with immigration on that though, as the rules may have changed, and I could be wrong.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally, if they fire you they have to notify immigration and this terminates your visa.

Legally....
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Need Help: Going Renegade Reply with quote

beekeeper3000 wrote:
Maybe that's a bit intense for a subject heading, but:

I'm being pushed out of my job, suffice it to say that my boss does not like men. Over the first six months of mycontract she has made it "difficult" to work and enjoy working.

I really like teaching and I feel I am a good teacher - growing and progressing as an an individual and a teacher.

However, this is my first contract in Korea and I am here on an E-2 visa. What can I expect to deal with in terms of relocating? If I find another job, will I have to get a new visa?

I'm confident any contract bonus and/or airfare will be lost. Such is life.

The $hit just hit the fan tonight, so my mind isn't so focused.... Any advie will help.


Seems to me that you might be the only teacher there. If not, I don't understand.

How long have you got in? Might be worth it to stick it out. Just keep on keeping on because if you stick it out, you could get your severence, etc. Just say "I'm sorry you feel that way", etc. You could also be harsh to her and say "I don't think that's an appropiate thing to say". Stand up for yourself. Don't worry. Check and see if she's paying your pension and maybe some other things and mention it under your breath in a way. Don't let anyone push you over. If you're doing a good job then there's no reason why she would be giving you a hard time except for some other screwed up reason that involves money.
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