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ScottyG

Joined: 09 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: TESL or CELTA or...? Where? Whats best? |
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Although I have 4 years teaching experience in Korea, I am thinking about getting a TESL or TEFL or CELTA or whatever certification. I am not sure this is needed, or even a wise decision, but it might open some new doors even if it doesn't really add to my repetoire.
Does anyone have some reccommendations as to what kind of program/certificate is the best and most widely accepted/respected and where I might take one.
I would like to do this economically within a time frame of two months. I would like to do this in a place like Thailand or the less expensive places in Europe. Any experiences or suggestions are welcome.
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seoulkitchen

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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There are a few answers over at the FAQ discussion board.
From what I could gather, the CELTA is better if you plan on going to Europe in the future, it is required there from what I've heard. It is geared toward adults.
The TESL/TEFL is more general I think.
Apparently it doesn't matter too much in Korea which one you get.
You'll hear a lot of people say neither one is necessary, however, I don't agree with that.
I plan on getting the CELTA as most of my experience has been with kids.
I haven't taught in a couple of years so I really want a refresher course as I am planning on getting back into it.
It never hurts to have more education.
So which one? Hell, only you can figure that one out.
Do you plan on going to Europe for teaching?
Do you plan on teaching in more adult oriented environments?
Compare costs and locations of programs.
Cambridge is recommended for CELTA, and Trinity for TESL/TEFL. They both have worldwide locations. Google them.
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:45 am Post subject: |
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CELTA is the real thing, TEFL is the knock off. Europe wants CELTA. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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CELTA is seen as equivalent to a Master's degree for public school teaching in SOUTH KOREA as of last year onwards. You get a higher pay bracket if you have it.
Of course, I prefer to work in hagwons, and directors couldn't care less about that certification or any other usually.
I took my CELTA after my second year of teaching here, and I went to Auckland, New Zealand to do it. Glad I did, but wished I'd picked a much less expensive way to do it! (airfare, local CELTA fees, accommodation, food, entertainment was a lot of bloody money compared to Thailand or Poland or the supercheapest Bulgaria, which offer the same CELTA).
The CELTA opens a lot of doors AND will add to your repetoire, the multiple qualified teacher trainers will see to it that you get plenty of feedback to improve your skills. EVERYBODY needs improvement, in fact, the only guy to fail the group I took it with was a high school teacher with ten plus years of blabbering at the front of a room while students sit and listen. That model of teaching is not what CELTA is at all about.
I highly recommend the CELTA for anyone teaching groups in excess of 8-10 students, whether they be adults, adolescents or youngums. It really helps with group and pair lesson planning and execution of task-based learning, practically and efficiently. The one-month intensive course is well worth it, as every fellow teacher said when I did it.
Good luck whatever. |
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LateBloomer
Joined: 06 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Took my CELTA in Krakow, Poland last March. The course has a great reputation, is cheap (as is living in Poland while you're taking it) and Krakow is a great city. Have heard many say it's "Europe's best kept secret". |
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semphoon

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Where Nowon is
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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What was the cost (In Korean W?) for the qualification and how long does it take to complete? |
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seoulkitchen

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Can people who have done the CELTA please tell us where you did it and how you would rate the place. (course cost, cost of living, accomodations etc..)
Thanks in advance! |
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LateBloomer
Joined: 06 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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The one-month course at International House in Krakow was approximately 1,010,000 won. That particular course is well established and has a good reputation. Accommodation was in the range of 300,000 won and you could get a decent meal for between 2,500 and 5,000 won. Transportation is also cheap.
The course was damn hard work but very worthwhile. Your every move is critiqued in detail each time you teach and you teach a group of students most days. There are no exams. Your mark is based on your teaching evaluations and assignments. Even the experienced teachers admitted that they learned something.
As I said earlier, Krakow is a great city�lots to see and do and the beer is good and cheap. However, you won�t have that much time for extra curricular activities during the course. Most of us spent evenings and a good part of every weekend doing assignments or lesson plans. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Trinity TESOL or Celta are both good and are both recognised in Europe.
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daninkorea
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: |
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As I understand CELTA and TESOL are the same, just different examination boards.
I am doing my TESOL in Thailand next month, which is going to cost $1500 including accomodation (although I am paying an extra $100 and staying in a hotel). It's with a company called TEFL international at their headquarters in Ban Phe. They have lots of different cities you can do it at, but I fancied doing it somewhere I could go for a swim after class!! |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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I researched this and got help from people on the forum. I am convinced the CELTA is the way to go, and I am going to do it for a month in Bangkok after my contract is up. At least, that is the plan.
Has anyone done it here and can give some feedback regarding the program? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: |
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1) book ahead of time
2) someone who had experience said "a cabal of catty homosexuals"
3) Poland |
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Paji eh Wong

Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
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dulouz wrote: |
2) someone who had experience said "a cabal of catty homosexuals"
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Mine was in Bangkok and it was a cabal of catty *beep* mongers, some of whom were homosexual. Kind of fun actually. We made the instructor cry and spit water out of his nose.
It was a TEFL cert, 6 weeks, $1000 US. An appartment for a month was $150. I liked the fact that the course was 6 weeks; I think I absorbed more. But whatever. The CELTA does carry more weight in Europe, if that's wehre you want to end up. In asia, its just another peice of paper.
Best advice: choose the program and trainer you like the most. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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daninkorea wrote: |
As I understand CELTA and TESOL are the same, just different examination boards. |
CELTA has a board but TESOL is just a generic name used by quality and crap programs alike, so hit or miss. The Trinity-run TESOL, now that has a good reputation.
daninkorea wrote: |
I fancied doing it somewhere I could go for a swim after class!! |
The CELTA is now being run on Phuket ! |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
daninkorea wrote: |
As I understand CELTA and TESOL are the same, just different examination boards. |
CELTA has a board but TESOL is just a generic name used by quality and crap programs alike, so hit or miss. The Trinity-run TESOL, now that has a good reputation. |
I have both a Bachelor's of Education, specialization TESL, and a CELTA. I found the CELTA to be more useful and informative.
("Useful" meaning as in the classroom, not as in finding a job. Most employers in Korea don't even know what a CELTA, much less a DELTA, is.) |
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