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Will anyone work for 1.2/ 1.5(depending on quals)?
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Will anyone work for 1.2/ 1.5(depending on quals)? Reply with quote

Job openings in Korea seem to be striking an all time low. What's up with this? Has the world suddenly realized the power of the Korean won and the charm of it's people to beat a hasty path to the shores of the land of the morning calm? Wow! A govt. job too.

This position, specifically for europeans I might add, looks as though the recruiters are hoping to hire graduates at minimum wage. Does the job also include; stock filling, dish-washing, sweeping? What do you think?

Korean Government job for Europeans! (Work in Korea)

Posted By: JUN Recruiting Inc. <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 20 January 2006, at 10:17 a.m.

Would you like to work in South Korea?
The job is rewarding and the working condition is excellent!
This could be the one in a life time opportunity for you!

* Job title: operator at the facilities in the English village in Paju city, Kyeonggi do, Korea (English immersion camp site)

* # of persons needed: 42

* Job Description:
1. Working at stores, restaurants in the English village as operating staff
2. Communicating with customers (students) in English to enhance their English skill

* Working location: Paju city, Kyeonggi do, Korea
the city website in English: http://en.pajuro.net/

* Job type: 1 year employment contract is offered

* Qualification:
1. University degree
2. Citizens of European countries
3. Fluent in English (speaking test will be conducted)

* Working hours: 10AM to 6 PM (Overtime pay will be paid if work overtime)

* Working days: Monday to Friday (5 days a week) with an option to work on Saturday with overtime pay

* Monthly salary: 1.2 ~ 1.5 million Korea won = $1,200 ~ $1,500 USD(depends on your qualification)

* Benefits:
1. Roundtrip airfare (Pre-paid or reimbursed) provided
2. Nice single studio apartment provided (in Paju city, Kyeonggi do / near by the working location)
3. Proper working visa provided
4. National medical insurance provided (50% of Premium)
5. Paid vacation (as stated in Korean labor law)

* Application dead line: February 10th 2006
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: Will anyone work for 1.2/ 1.5(depending on quals)? Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:
... Does the job also include; stock filling, dish-washing, sweeping? What do you think?

* Job title: operator at the facilities in the English village in Paju city,

* Job Description:
1. Working at stores, restaurants in the English village as operating staff

Some young adults would rather be a restaurant worker than be a teacher.

And $ 1200 U.S. a month plus free airfare and apartment is BETTER than other offers for those adventurous European youth who want to travel and see different countries.

If I was in Europe, and a bit intimidated or lacking confidence in teaching as some young adults are, then this might be a good idea for six months or a year.
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Calling All Europeans! Reply with quote

One would have to be financially desperate or passionately adventurous to
work at that salary range. I was earning this kind of money as a teacher
here ten years ago. I suppose some newlygrads who are still living at home
with their parents might accept the offer for a change of pace and a little
travel. Cool
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this isn't a bad offer. 1) it's not for teaching. It's for being a waiter. 2) They're not asking for native speakers. They're looking for Europeans who are fluent enough in English.

You might not be able to save much on 1.2 million, but you could have a helluva nice working holiday.
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keithinkorea



Joined: 17 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is shockingly bad. Anyone who would take that offer is a moron.

It's basically a a full time job with part time wages. You could probably earn more washing cars and mowing lawns part time in most western European countries.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're looking for European candidates, why did they compare the won to the US dollar rather than the euro? Strange.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keithinkorea wrote:
That is shockingly bad. Anyone who would take that offer is a moron.

It's basically a a full time job with part time wages. You could probably earn more washing cars and mowing lawns part time in most western European countries.


Don't be knocking manual labour, it pays more than most jobs that don't require book smarts. I used to pocket $15 an hour back in 1990 along with getting exercise. WIth inflation, I would be making more per hour than teaching at a generic job in Korea.

As for comparing the wages, the UK (with the highest minimum wage in Europe) comes in at $8.60US an hour. And with that a person gets an insane VAT rate (17.5% last I checked) and fall in the 22% income tax rate. Hope no one owns a TV, or one is coughing up another $192 per year. Then add to this the substantially higher cost of living and a person making minimum wage while living on their own gets pretty much zero dollars in spending cash.

Same job in Korea, a person could live the same lifestyle and save $1000 a month, or live it up and still save a few hundred a month.

Not everyone wants to be a teacher nor looks at a teacher's salary as being equal to minimum wage. Being a store clerk is far easier than teaching and requires no prep work (not that everyone who teaches does prep work anyway).
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, $1200 a month just won't sell in Krakow.

You galoots.

Where do you think the Koreans get their underwear models from?

Christ, those guys will be giving backrubs in Limelight faster than you can say zlobotnik.
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welshboy



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Jobs Reply with quote

Absolutely no - people shouldn't try to justify that earning this amount is OK. Its amazing how people become "conditioned" to accepting things if everyone starts saying "that's just the way it is" - well things wouldn't be "a certain way" if the majority did something about it rather than just conceding (or many just moaning).

Its true to say things in korea (salary, reliability etc) ARE getting worse - regardless of what other people post here, things ARE on a downward spiral. Yes there are still good jobs, but yes they are now more few and far between.

This is based on "how things are" - anyone that says otherwise, then let them post also their "facts" (ie where are these jobs, good conditions etc).

Everything economic works in cycles, that is a fact - and the cycle at a positive level has been going for a while now, so downturns are natural (and a big downturn is due soon, simply because disposal income and disposable money is very very low on the western scale at the moment).

Its only a matter of time before stock markets, housing, oil, commodities have a crash - how much of a fall is all dependent on how much of the hit governments take against their fiscal spending and over spend deficit (debt) - in other words, it depends on how much they hide so that they can continue saying "oh yeah the economy is doing well, it is growing, inflation is steady".

Its only a matter of time people - and it seems that over the past few years up to this point that jobs and conditions are getting worse. Again I will repeat what others will say, that there are some good jobs out there, which is true - but they are fewer and far between at this present time.

"How things are" the realists will say - maybe it will take other mainstream crashes (as mentioned above) for people to realise that a downward spiral is occuring (or will) and indeed that there are THREE things, not TWO that re constants in life:

1. Death
2. Tax (obviously varying!)
3. Economic Cycles
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering when I first came to Korea the starting salary to teach was 1.1mil...I don't think 1.5mil to NOT teach is a bad gig.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet they might attract some adventuresome young Europeans who otherwise would have no opportunity to visit & work here.

Remember, aside from UKers, they dont qualify for E2 positions.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GDP per capita for countries like Estonia and Latvia (the lowest) is somewhere around a third and below that of Canada, probably about a quarter that of the US. I remember a girl in Tallinn who worked as an operator for the equivalent of $2 an hour in university, a position that would pay $15 in Calgary. Add that to the fact that you don't have to be a native speaker and there's nothing wrong with the position.
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: US$ vs Euro Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
If they're looking for European candidates, why did they compare the won to the US dollar rather than the euro? Strange.


They quoted US$ because they didn't think !!!!

Many Koreans only think of the USA when thinking of western / english speaking countries. That's why most Koreans say "Miguk" (which means 'USA') when they see a westerner. I think some use "Miguk" to mean "foreigner."

It's a bit like some westerners who say "Chinese" when they really should say "Asian".
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a shame.

Any fool who takes one of those jobs will find themselves putting in extra long hours and being treated .......well....being treated like a foriegner in Korea Laughing

My prediction? Working on site hours of up to 14 hours a day.....being jerked around left right and center......being told to do a whole host of other duties that werent discussed with you or mentioned in your contract......eventually losing your mind.....doing a midnight runner(along with any compatriots you have) leading the KIC(Korean in charge) to deduce that massive deposits are the way to keep people from running away Mad
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Cunning plan Reply with quote

I think it's all a cunning plan to make hagwan jobs look good.
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