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Just when I thought hangeul was easy...
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:23 am    Post subject: Just when I thought hangeul was easy... Reply with quote

Pronounce this phrase: �� �Դ�

It's meaning is dead simple: "to wear clothes." �� and �Դ� go together like hand and glove. I've probably used some combination of them together a 1000 times. And apparently i've been doing wrong �Ѥ�;
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Chillin' Villain



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing just "oSHIbta" (���ʴ�), with the final-initial sound blending and all? Or "oat ibta"? Bloody hell... Confused

I dunno, normally I'd just throw the object particle (��) in after the �� to make it easier for myself, though I know that's not always done.

So how IS it pronounced, anyways? I was wrong, wasn't I?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

������
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
������


Mith, I love the first link in your sig? It promises the best Korean study method ever, and leads to a link that says "Internal Server Error"! Laughing
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG you're right. Now it works. Seriously, best study method ever. If you're a guy.
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Chillin' Villain



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
������

�� wrote:
"oat ibta"?


�� - �� - ��!!! (I am officially deeming my second stab at it as "close enough.")
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates claimed:
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the best Korean study method ever


So am I right or am I right?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I would've guessed it's a soft 'd' sound like in ���ؿ� ("can't do").

For those of you who don't know, if there are any, �ѱ����߸��ؿ�, han goo mal jal moh de yoh, means "Korean speak well, can't do"). One of those "gets you everywhere" and "find yourself saying it all the time" phrases....
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Close, but that's pronounced ���¿� because the h in the next syllable changes it from a d to a t.
�ѱø� �� ���¿�
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smart arse! Very Happy
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, I just want you to be as smooth with the ladies as possible. Wink
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this site for an "interactive" approach to learning Korean vocabulary, as well as Hangul typing skills (don't cut and paste!!)

http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/kimcheegi/363.html

I like it when she starts to get bored and leans against the bar.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is usually pronounced �´յ�.

cf. http://cafe.naver.com/rhdandnjs.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Farticleid=371
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
It is usually pronounced �´յ�.

cf. http://cafe.naver.com/rhdandnjs.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Farticleid=371


Is that to say the average korean would pronounce it like that?
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got another site saying something else.

It's possible it could be like ������ being pronounced ���ɿ� even though it should be ������, but saying it the latter way doesn't get through to people. All I've heard for �� �Դ� up to now has been ������. I remember someone tellling me to ���Ծ� once and I thought she was saying ����?
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