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Recommend some good cheap wines and cheeses

 
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Recommend some good cheap wines and cheeses Reply with quote

I am clueless in this area.
I am having some korean friends over and I'd like to put on some wine and cheese. So I'd really like to hear about some decent, inexpensive wines and cheeses and where to pick them up.

They don't have to be amazing or anything, i expect you get what you pay for to some extent, and the main thing is they suit korean tastes somewhat.

thanks for any tips
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend some good cheap wines and cheeses Reply with quote

Mashimaro wrote:
...wine and cheese... inexpensive ...suit korean tastes somewhat.

Raspberry wine and processed cheese slices.

Seriously.

I have spent a small fortune on cheeses in Korea: having gotten a dozen kinds from the importers, and whatever variety the local shops offer, and...

At every dinner party I've had, the cheese trays go untouched, even when encouraged, only one or two nibblers ever touch it. Very frustrating. A wonderful selection, with several kinds of crackers framing the cheeses, and left untouched.

Velvetta, Kraft or other processed cheese slices only interest them. Whether young adults or middle-aged wives. (I was baffled my first two years of holding regular dinner parties. I guess I've stopped shaking my head inside, and simply give a silent smirk.)

As for wines, grape wine is "too dry" or "bitter" or blah for the Korean palate. Go with a sweet Beaujolais, or choose a Korean fruit wine like raspberry or pomegranate.
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teachingld2004



Joined: 29 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: wine and cheese Reply with quote

I may get "yelled" at from people on this board, but instead of wine and cheese, I would serve beer and fruit!

I had some Korean friends over before Christmas, and I had wine and cheese. 2 people poured glasses of wine, and they had one sip. They asked if I had beer.

I had cheese out, and after they left I put the cheese back in the refrig. I made banana bread, and they loved it. I had apples, pears, oranges, and a fresh pineapple. They loved those fruits also.

You can have a bit of wine and cheese, but I would say just enough for a sample. You can say this is what you and your friends at home like, and possibly they will try some.

Nuts are good.

Have a nice time with your friends, I am sure even if they do not like what you put out, they will be happy that you invited them.

Take pictures. Send them via e-mail to your friends. Possibly print out a few and hand them out, Everyone loves pictures
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked up a 4 liter box of Hardy's claret at carrefoure today for 19,000. It's not great but you can have a good party with it. Any kinda fruit or spicy/salty side dish goes well with it. In fact, I'm feeling quite nice right now!
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul Milk makes a nice mild mozzarella and it's not a bad price. Most Koreans don't seem to realize cheese comes in forms other than sliced and processed.

Wine: just avoid Jinro wine. Something like 2000 won for a half bottle. It's the kind of stuff you "uncork" for a joke. You can get some decent French bottles, red or white, for sub 10,000 won.
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Jaygee



Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Wal Mart close to my house in Daechidong and they have a good selection of red and white. I found some nice Bordeaux and Beaujolais at around 10,000 W on "special". As for cheese, Costco can supply you with very decent cheeses. But has teachingld2004 was writing, try to offer variety and enjoy your gathering.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrefour is probably the best place to go for a good selection of wine at a reasonable price.

If they have it, Chinon is a good French red, and Vouvray is a great French white and I have seen both at Carrefour at reasonable prices. Merlots and Cabernet Sauvignons are always good, too.

For cheese, go with milder cheeses. Brie and camembert are good and mild, and readily available. I've seen Koreans enjoy them. They tend not to like sharp cheeses, like sharp cheddar, or moldy cheeses like roquefort.

Oh, and don't forget to have a good crusty bread handy.
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the tips guys, keep em coming.

need to find some nice (again, ideally cheap) wine glasses somwhere too.

also what temperature should wines be served at?
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had good luck with Koreans and havarti cheese.

When it comes to wine, most people are talking out their ass. That movie "Sideways" put a giant dent in the merlot side of the wine industry and put the pinot noir side into orbit. Its the mark of consumers who don't know what they want and can't tell the difference between wines, ie. most people. I like Cabernet Sauvignon for 10 -20 000 a bottle, served at room temp.
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chotaerang



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havarti is a good bet. If you want to keep it under 20 000 won, I'd also recommend Pepperjack cheese (Costo) and Carlos Rossi Burgundy. It's a jug wine but I love this stuff. If you're at Costo anyway, I'd also buy triscuit crackers. They're whole wheat, no trans fats and tasty. And also - don't serve swiss cheese. I still haven't found out why, but people here hate it. Best of luck.
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mashimaro wrote:
thanks for the tips guys, keep em coming.

need to find some nice (again, ideally cheap) wine glasses somwhere too.

also what temperature should wines be served at?


Most places like E-Mart, Carrefour, etc. sell wine glasses.

I'm no expert on wine, but the basic rule of thumb seems to be:

- white wines are served cold, and

- red wines are served at room temperature.

White wines tend to be sweeter, especially German ones like mosel (Chardonnay is an exception).

Red wines tend to be dry (not sweet). The best exception I know is red zinfandel (It's quite difficult to find. You'd pretty much have to go to a wine specialty store, like the one in Apgujeong's Hyundai department store. It's too bad, because Koreans actually like it.)

I agree with a previous poster about mozzarella. It's about the only non-processed cheese that Koreans like, probably because they're familiar with it from eating pizza.

Oh, and whatever you do, don't buy Majuang brand wine. Many brands are as cheap or cheaper, and (remember, I'm no expert on wine) it's the saddest imposter for wine I've ever tasted.
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, what happened?

Did things go well?

Don't leave us twisting in the wind like this ...
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