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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| I'll be looking forward to hearing more about the implementation of intel dual cores on Sager's forums. AMD already has a dual core compatible MOB for it's 64 X2 chips, but it still only allows up to 2gb of ddr3 RAM. It would be nice if they could push it to at least 4gb for upgradeability. I'd like to see how the 945 chipsets will stack up against what AMD has already put out, especially since I'll finally be able to make a purchase of a Sager laptop in the Spring. |
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dbee
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| How much will a dual-core AMD cost then ? |
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BigBlackEquus
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Well, it looks like the Dual-Core Centrinos are going to start at $1,700 US, according to that article (or maybe it was another article I saw). I am sure the AMD offerings will be within $200 either way. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| dbee wrote: |
| How much will a dual-core AMD cost then ? |
For a Sager NP9750, they start at $2715 American for:
17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Glossy/Wide Screen Display
AMD AMD 64 4200+ Dual Core
Video Card: 16x PCI-Express Graphics with HDTV output
256 MB GDDR3 nVIDIA�� GeForce�� Go 7800 GTX
12-Cell Smart Lithium Ion Battery
4 USB (2.0), 1 PCMCIA Port, 1 Fast IR, 1 Serial Port, USB Floppy
10/100/1000 Mb Ethernet LAN Card & 56k Modem, 802.11(b+g) wireless
1 S-Video TV Out, 1 S-Video-in, 2 IEEE 1394 Firewire, 1 DVI / VGA out
5 speaker 5.1 CH surround sound audio (w/ subwoofer), SPDIF Port
15.5" x 11.75" x 1.95" - 12.5 lbs with battery
Add another $915 to upgrade to AMD 64 FX - 60 plus another gig of DDR3 RAM and $140 for a 100gb 7200 RPM PATA hdd. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Err... right, not something that you'd stick in a backpack then  |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| dbee wrote: |
| Err... right, not something that you'd stick in a backpack then |
Dell is supposedly bringing out a 19" laptop |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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I fucking well won't be. I'd still be limited in upgrading and expanding and it'll be a little while yet before laptops get to even the half-terrabyte of hard-drive space that I have now (with lots of slots left to expand to). One monitor sucks (I know they can support two, but who's going to carry around an extra monitor?)
Naw. Take the best laptop on the market today and you still have half of my machine at twice the price. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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I *beep* well won't be. I'd still be limited in upgrading and expanding and it'll be a little while yet before laptops get to even the half-terrabyte of hard-drive space that I have now (with lots of slots left to expand to). One monitor sucks (I know they can support two, but who's going to carry around an extra monitor?)
Naw. Take the best laptop on the market today and you still have half of my machine at twice the price. |
Ok, so the_beaver is one person that does not fit into the definition of "a lot of people."
Next poster, please. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
I *beep* well won't be. I'd still be limited in upgrading and expanding and it'll be a little while yet before laptops get to even the half-terrabyte of hard-drive space that I have now (with lots of slots left to expand to). One monitor sucks (I know they can support two, but who's going to carry around an extra monitor?)
Naw. Take the best laptop on the market today and you still have half of my machine at twice the price. |
I'm not sure why anyone would even want to be traveling with half a terrabyte of information on a laptop. If you really must have that much storage, put it on a removable, portable, or external drive and leave it at home to be hooked up via usb when you dock your laptop. BTW, sager computers are very flexible and not so limited as you would think as far as upgrading goes, especially with the D900T (intel), and D900H (amd), shells which are running the most powerful laptop platforms in the world right now.
To a desktop enthusiast, 12.5 pounds may be stretching the definition of portability, but at least I can take my system with me when I visit mom and pop at home. Also, when/if I ever move back, I won't have to dismantle my system and attempt to get my precious components back without screwing them up. I also won't have to set everything back up in a new case once I get there... time wasted if you ask me. I much prefer to throw my system into a notebook backback and have everything up and running instantly, wherever I go. Remember, this is not a rough laptop anymore than it is a laptop meant for actually taking with you on business trips or vacations. It is a gaming laptop. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| but at least I can take my system with me when I visit mom and pop at home. Also, when/if I ever move back, I won't have to dismantle my system and attempt to get my precious components back without screwing them up. I also won't have to set everything back up in a new case once I get there... time wasted if you ask me. I much prefer to throw my system into a notebook backback and have everything up and running instantly, wherever I go. Remember, this is not a rough laptop anymore than it is a laptop meant for actually taking with you on business trips or vacations. It is a gaming laptop. |
People always say "I can take it with me", which is an advantage. But with what I do, a unit that I can take with me won't cut it. Try opening half of the MS Office suite, Premiere 1.5, Photoshop CS2, three or four internet things and using bittorrent and eDonkey. Worse, do it with just the one small screen.
I wouldn't mind owning a laptop, but it would always have supplemental status. |
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Eunoia
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Location: In a seedy karakoe bar by the banks of the mighty Bosphorus
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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Try opening half of the MS Office suite, Premiere 1.5, Photoshop CS2, three or four internet things and using bittorrent and eDonkey. Worse, do it with just the one small screen.
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I'm not denying that it would be nice to be able to do all those things at once - but really, how many people really NEED to do all that at once? |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Dual-core laptops from Intel and AMD |
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| Eunoia wrote: |
| the_beaver wrote: |
Try opening half of the MS Office suite, Premiere 1.5, Photoshop CS2, three or four internet things and using bittorrent and eDonkey. Worse, do it with just the one small screen.
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I'm not denying that it would be nice to be able to do all those things at once - but really, how many people really NEED to do all that at once? |
When I was coding my webpage last year, I was running Photoshop CS, Dreamweaver MX, Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, and IE (all at once for testing purposes), eDonkey, CuteFTP Pro, WMP, and MS Word at the same time. This was on my current laptop which is a P4m 2.3/512mb. It ran a little sluggishly, but workable. You just have to get good at switching panes more efficiently!
In reality, I really would prefer to get a full desktop system, but my lifestyle just doesn't make it practical. Once I settle permanently in one place, I will set up a rockin desktop system, but until then, I will be using laptops. I can't wait to get a Sager. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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hey beav...the new comp is already being challenged....and by a laptop!
Gotta hate tech....gets old fast. Oh well...divert the attention, eh? Yeah...2 monitors is cool....but far from necessary. All the apps you speak of don't need to be watched. The ones that do...well....what are you, a chameleon?
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
hey beav...the new comp is already being challenged....and by a laptop!
Gotta hate tech....gets old fast. Oh well...divert the attention, eh? Yeah...2 monitors is cool....but far from necessary. All the apps you speak of don't need to be watched. The ones that do...well....what are you, a chameleon?
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You call that a challenge? When it gets close I can overclock my chips to 4ghz per. . . and I still have 4 empty slots for more hard drives. . .
pfff.
challenge my ass. |
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