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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:20 pm    Post subject: Philippines Reply with quote

Alright, I'm heading to the Philippines next week for 3 weeks..

The truth is that although I've been enamoured with the place for years (I grew up with a wack of filipinos), I really have no idea what there is to do there.. I bought a LP yesterday and that's it..

Basically, I'm flying into Manilla and flying out of Cebu 3 weeks later..

I figure I'll hit Boracay at some point along the way..

And suggestions as to what I should do/avoid?
Any warnings? Things I should bring/not bring?

I'm hoping some of you have actually travelled there and would have some suggestions itinerary wise as to what I shouldn't miss.. I'm doing the trip solo as well...

For the record, I'm not into prostitutes or macking 16 year olds.
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JAMZ



Joined: 18 May 2004
Location: Ori Station, Bundang

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im goin in march... let me know how it goes.... i havent been to the philippines since 87... you should check out the rice terraces in Banaue and Sagado... considered the 8th natural wonder of the world.



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Harvard Material



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been there, YET!, but I have many friends who have been. Their advice? DON"T STAY IN MANILLA!! Very, very dangerous place apparently. Lot's of gangs and a serious corruption problem inside the law. Drugs, guns, prostitutes=money. Toxic mix for trouble. Many bars have signs telling you to check your knives/guns at the door.

Avoid taxis if at all possible. It is better/safer to hire a driver for a full day then random taxi pick-ups.

Angeles(spelling?), apparently is a safe city. Much safer than Manilla. When you land at the airport you should have a car arranged to pick you up and get you out of there. The person telling me these things has been in Korea for 18 years and has been to the Philippines more than 20 times on business/pleasure trips.

Regardless s.k.; take good care and exercise caution. Especially at night! I'll try to get you some more info...
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvard Material wrote:

Angeles(spelling?), apparently is a safe city. Much safer than Manilla


What else did your friend tell you about Angeles? From what I've heard it's what would happen if Hooker Hill were allowed to become a city, and there's signs at the local 7-11s asking customers to please leave their weapons with the security guard outside.

Doesn't sound like the kinda place for SK. I've heard cool things about Siquor though (sp? it's the island that supposed to be cursed or something)
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to avoid macking....avoid that pit known as Angeles.

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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=26883&highlight=Philippines

or
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=426
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoyed Manilla. My friend and I were cautious, but we had a great time. We stayed at Malate Pensione, and ate great Caribbean food at the Ciboney on Remedios Circle (near the Pensione). That little neighborhood also has good Philippino food, and a little Cuban club with salsa dancing.

I can't imagine traveling to actually see a country and understand it, and not spend time in the big cities.


Here is my favorite photo from Banaue. The town is a bettle juice soaked disaster of nasty filth, with pathetic food, but the people are so nice, and the surroundings are some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen.
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hamlet12



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Location: That crusty stuff in your eyes.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:05 am    Post subject: Phillipines info, numbers, private driver Reply with quote

If you are into crowds and the whole party scene then by all means go to cebu.

BUt before you hit there try and hit white beach in Puerto Galera.


IF YOU LAND AFTER 5PM

When you land at the airport take an airport taxi to the City State Tower Hotel. They are gonna say that its over 1500 pesos. If you say no way, and walk away the driver will usually come out and drop the price to around 650, at least thats what happened with me. The Taxi fare will cost you only around 150 - 200 pesos, but who knows if your driver will REALLY know where the hotel is. The hotel is 1250. This price is not worth it for the room.

The hotel has a bus that leaves FROM THE HOTEL at 8 am every morning to the Boat docks.

MAKE SURE YOU GET ON A WHITE BEACH BOAT, NOT SABANG, oranything else

If you wanna go to the beach right away, just hit any terminal and get a bus ticket to Batangas boat docks. They will get you on the right bus. But the last boat is just around 6 or 7, so keep that in mind. If you havent loaded a bus by around 4 30 pm you are stuck there til the next morning.

White beach is a very cool little place. Lots and LOTS of beach space, secluded, all amenities, all price ranges, greta food, a golf course right near by. You can hire trikes or jeepneys very reasonable.

Befreind the guys at PACIFIC DIVERS. They know the area. The guy who runs it also can rent you his guest house at 500 pesos a night ( no hot water though i think)

I stayed at the Gray Wall, its about 1500 pesos in low season i believe, very roomy and very clean. The owner goes out of her way for you.

Anyway. Other than that if you wanna go anywhere on the Manilla island, I can give you a very reliable private driver. his rate basically works out to 13 bucks an hour or so dpending on distance.

I have numbers to everywhere, and for all the people i have mentioned

Private message me with any questions or concerns. I doubt you'll be dissapointed with White beach
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only know Manila airport & Boracay. I had a wonderful time. Its a poor country but I met lots of genuinely friendly filipinos.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the best way to get to/from Banaue from Manilla? According to the LP the bus takes 9 hours!! Confused are flights to/from pretty cheap?

Anyways.. so far this is what I'm thinking I can't miss...

Manila for a few days
Banaue
Puerto Galera
Sabang
Boracay
Cebu

Is Angeles/Mt. Pinatubo worth hitting at all?

What else am I missing?

Yeah, I know I suck.. but seriously any help is appreciated... how long do you figure I should spend in each place?
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sagada is cool, and can be gotten to on a route back to Manila from Banaue via Bontok. (Yeah, the bus ride is too long and exhausting, but also amazingly scenic.)

Its a strangely calm and quiet little town, with great hikes, hanging coffins, and marvelous caves. I stayed at a converted orphanage (St. Joseph Guesthouse) for $1.00 U.S. a night- private little room with a bath across the hall. We ate as Masferre Country Inn (good food, nice baked goods for breakfast) and Yoghurt House- where they have other-worldly yoghurt- so thick and creamy with a remarkable flavor. We were there about this time last year, and they were serving fresh strawberries with the yoghurt. They also have a killer BLT, and a lending library as well!

By the way, the secret to the tidy calmness of the village is the serious presence of Missionaries. Masferres has also a gift store with great crafts, and a photo gallery in the restaurant. It seems the family is part of the missionary thing. But the photos are spectacular old shots of the mountain tribes- not to be missed.

It feels like a mountain retreat out of Thomas Mann!

Oh, and if you go, Sagada can get cold as hell, and nothing is heated, so take appropriate clothes.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take some Valium for the bus ride. It's a serious pain in the ass. Buy hash from the Barangay Captain in Sagada.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, leaving tomorrow morning.. will be in Manila late tomorrow aft... I've had loads of suggestions sent to me (thanks)... one thing I haven't settled is which area of Manila I should go to once I arrive..

Suggestions? Pros/Cons?

merci
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I suggested before, if you are interested in particulars, send me a p.m.

And have a great time!

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I really enjoyed Manilla. My friend and I were cautious, but we had a great time. We stayed at Malate Pensione, and ate great Caribbean food at the Ciboney on Remedios Circle (near the Pensione). That little neighborhood also has good Philippino food, and a little Cuban club with salsa dancing.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SarcasmKills wrote:
Alright, leaving tomorrow morning.. will be in Manila late tomorrow aft... I've had loads of suggestions sent to me (thanks)... one thing I haven't settled is which area of Manila I should go to once I arrive..

Suggestions? Pros/Cons?

merci


Word of note at the airport. On the arrivals level, you will be hounded voraciously by taxi agency reps as soon as you hit the doors. They will do whatever it takes to con you into their taxis and make a big deal about how if you go find a regular fare taxi, that you will get screwed, blah..blah. They will prey on your ignorance of the city and quote ridiculous fares. We fell for it the first time, when they quoted 1500 pesos to get us to our hotel (we eventually got them down to 800). On the way back to the airport from the same hotel, using a regular fare taxi, it cost 200 pesos.

Best bet is to take the escalator or stairs and go up to the departure concourse and go out those doors, to the taxis that are dropping travellers off. We did that another time, and the fare was a lot more realistic.

A nice area to stay in Manila is around Intramuros, the historical walled city within a city.

We went all over Manila and Cebu in the days and at nights, and had no real issues with crime or dangerous situations. The only place where we felt a little uncomfortable was when we were walking back from a restaurant and stumbled through a really seedy part of downtown Cebu at night, despite the locals still being courtesy and friendly. Carry the same common sense that you would have in any other big city in SE Asia and you'll be fine.
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