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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: LG on the side Reply with quote

I taught at LG (LG children) for two weeks and was wondering if I should be taxed for this work. I teach at a hagwon. I taught at LG 4 hours/day for 9 days and my pay is 1 million. Apparently, I get paid on the 17th next month. I taught from the 9th to the 20th of January. Is it normal to get paid almost a month later due to company policy? That's the thing. My boss got my passport and ARC info for them, but I never signed a contract directly with LG. I'm pretty much in the dark about this.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you did was totally illegal, and what is happening here is that LG charged your boss tax, because the work was done in his name. He is passing the charges along to you.

The snide little bastard. Tell him to go jump into the Han.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like everything was done in a legit manner...add-ons are legal, and can benefit those who wish to make extra ca$h. I would only ask questions if the tax were more than 2% or something. To answer your question, yes, you should be taxed. I also hope that either your boss or LG is submitting said tax.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add-ons are legal ONLY if approved by immigration AND stamped on the back of your E-2 (assuming you are an E-2).
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
What you did was totally illegal, and what is happening here is that LG charged your boss tax, because the work was done in his name. He is passing the charges along to you.

The snide little *beep*. Tell him to go jump into the Han.


Well, he hasn't passed the charges on to me yet. That's why I'm asking.

So, they have to stamp the back of my E-2. I was wondering the whole time because I thought that if I were to work for another company that something had to be done with immigration. I never signed anything. All he did was take my passport and ARC and then gave them back the same day.

I suppose he's SOL. He can only tax me what he usually taxes me.

Do companies like LG usually pay after or do they pay up front? Or do they usually pay as soon as the job is finished?
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ben the saint



Joined: 16 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO TAX, legal or illegal work. Only your sponsor can legally tax you.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben the saint wrote:
NO TAX, legal or illegal work. Only your sponsor can legally tax you.


Is there anywhere on the net I can see this information? Like on NTS's website?
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben the saint wrote:
NO TAX, legal or illegal work. Only your sponsor can legally tax you.


Thats not true. What about people who are their own sponsors or are on an F2 and are sponsored by their wife? Who are they taxed by?
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I misinterpreted your first post as meaning that your boss had the necessary paperwork processed through immigration. If you don't have anything written on the back of your ARC and an extra stamp in your passport, then you worked for LG illegally. I think what Ben is saying is that you should pay no tax because you worked illegally. What are you going to do now...register your work retroactively? You're supposed to do it prior to working anywhere else...the contract from the additional place, your passport, ARC, your E-2 place's business registration # and teaching schedule, and 50Gs. I would do as Ben said, tell your boss no tax...also, tell him to not do that sort of thing again unless it is done legally...he may've put himself at risk for a heavy fine, but he also put you at risk not only for a fine but also deportation. Get your mil or whatever you said it was and insist on no deductions unless the guy begins doing things the way he's supposed to...didn't you mention about some tax irregularities in another thread?
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
Sorry, I misinterpreted your first post as meaning that your boss had the necessary paperwork processed through immigration. If you don't have anything written on the back of your ARC and an extra stamp in your passport, then you worked for LG illegally. I think what Ben is saying is that you should pay no tax because you worked illegally. What are you going to do now...register your work retroactively? You're supposed to do it prior to working anywhere else...the contract from the additional place, your passport, ARC, your E-2 place's business registration # and teaching schedule, and 50Gs. I would do as Ben said, tell your boss no tax...also, tell him to not do that sort of thing again unless it is done legally...he may've put himself at risk for a heavy fine, but he also put you at risk not only for a fine but also deportation. Get your mil or whatever you said it was and insist on no deductions unless the guy begins doing things the way he's supposed to...didn't you mention about some tax irregularities in another thread?


Well, there was no contract with the additional place. My boss just offered this job and took my ARC and passport and gave them back to me later. It was short term (2 weeks). Maybe everything was legit. They're no doubt paying him and then he pays us.

Yes, I mentioned before that he taxes me 3.7%. I know this is too high although some have argued. We're talking about 3.7% on my base salary. I plan on getting the overpayments back, but I'm in a situation of deciding wether to re-sign with him or not.

I'm confused. Is there anywhere I can look up this information?
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be different if my boss was getting paid for it, couldn't it?
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
It could be different if my boss was getting paid for it, couldn't it?


I think it depends on how he reports it. He can declare it as income and then turn around and declare it as an expense in having to pay you. If your base is 2.2, the tax would only be 40,000. However, if he declares your income as 3.2 for last month, it jumps to 175,000. The two camps where I have worked before took the tax out based on what I made at the camp. In other words, I think you should only be taxed for your earnings separately, not the combination, but I'm not 100% sure how it's done.

http://nts.go.kr/front/service/refer_cal/gani/refer_gani_eng.asp

...tells us 0won for tax based on 1mil(Ben'd be right here) and 2,500won for 1.2mil.

p.s. It wasn't legit if there was nothing added to your card and passport...should've had sth like "���� ĥ�帰" or sth. For example, last summer I was doing a camp. I was on an F-2 at that time and working at a middle school. In my passport, I have a stamp for my F-2 and it has a number attached to it: PS-XX-XX-XXXX. The middle school E-2 was an addition with a number: PS-XX-XX-XXX. The camp was also an addition with a number: PS-XX-XX-XXX. Both of those places were also added onto the back of my ARC.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, even though it was only two weeks, I would have still needed the stamp in the passport and something on the back of my ARC. Hmmm.

If LG were paying me separately then it would be zero tax. Am I right?

Either way, he's not paying the tax office. I know this. When it all comes down to it. He owes me back taxes. That'll be taken care of at a later date. I really do enjoy how I've brought that up to him a million times and he starts talking babble like "they" told me that it's higher than that. "They" is these people that come in who are not the tax office. Far as I'm concerned, they're just Joe and Dane from down the street.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I'll just say that since it was illegal that I don't want to claim tax and no tax will be claimed. 1 million please. End of story.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
So, even though it was only two weeks, I would have still needed the stamp in the passport and something on the back of my ARC. Hmmm.

Two minutes would be illegal if you were teaching at a place other than the one on your ARC and you were being paid for it.

If LG were paying me separately then it would be zero tax. Am I right?

Again, I'm not 100% sure about this. I also don't really know who to ask or where to look right now. I did another three-week camp recently. I have the amt paid recorded in my bank book, but I am unable to locate my time table to verify the exact amt that I was taxed based on my take home...however, the amt paid was near to what I expected...and not a lot of tax taken out. Most days were four classes, but there were a few days where I only did three classes and a couple of other special event days where we were paid a flat rate of 100.

Either way, he's not paying the tax office. I know this. When it all comes down to it. He owes me back taxes. That'll be taken care of at a later date. I really do enjoy how I've brought that up to him a million times and he starts talking babble like "they" told me that it's higher than that. "They" is these people that come in who are not the tax office. Far as I'm concerned, they're just Joe and Dane from down the street.

Are you getting him to do your taxes? You can figure things out for yourself here:

http://nts.go.kr/front/service/refer_cal/jungsan2005/eng/refer_2005jungsan_eng.asp

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