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itsme
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: Starting date for public schools |
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Hello
I apologize if this is one of those questions that is posted about every other week but I need some information.
I have been working and waiting for about a month with one recruiter. Just when I am supposed to have received my visa he says that there was a problem with it and it didnt go through.
So now Im wondering when public school positions usually begin so I can go after one of those, which will be better for me anyway.
I hope to find one in Seoul. Any advice would be nice 
What are the chances of showing up and finding a job from there as opposed to risking the chance of another month wasted online? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Starting date for public schools |
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| itsme wrote: |
Hello
I apologize if this is one of those questions that is posted about every other week but I need some information.
I have been working and waiting for about a month with one recruiter. Just when I am supposed to have received my visa he says that there was a problem with it and it didnt go through.
So now Im wondering when public school positions usually begin so I can go after one of those, which will be better for me anyway.
I hope to find one in Seoul. Any advice would be nice
What are the chances of showing up and finding a job from there as opposed to risking the chance of another month wasted online? |
Public schools do their hiring for trained circus monkeys in Feb. and Aug. for the terms that start March 2 and Sept. 4. Hogwans are ALWAYS hiring.
Don't use just one recruiter. SEnd your information to any and all.
If you were here and look even a little bit professional then you will have interviews within 1 or 2 days of landing and a job within a week if you really wanted one that badly. 16,000 positions and 6000 applicants. You do the math.
to the other readers.....Ya.. don't tell me about grammar and sentence frags... I'm not interested. Unless you are teaching technical English at a highschool or "Uni... life is not a grammar lesson... 2nd language training is about COMMUNICATION. |
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itsme
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| If you were here and look even a little bit professional then you will have interviews within 1 or 2 days of landing and a job within a week if you really wanted one that badly. |
Wow this is reassuring. Once in Korea, what is the best way to look for jobs? Are there newspapers or magazines advertising?
I understand that it is probably better to go with several recruiters and to see which offers the best; however, it seems that the level of accountability, even for employers, is decreasing. It's amazing how much time can be wasted applying for jobs online. Employers sometimes want recruits to submit personalized applications. This would be fine if I knew who I was dealing with but sometimes I fill out a lengthy application and never hear back from these people. This could be due to my lack of credentials or qualifications but on the other hand it could be due to other things too. If alot of jobs are indeed looking for the first person who will sign a contract, it further adds difficulties to the job search as there is less room for negotiation on the part of the recruits.
"You want us to put the date of payment in your contract because its not already there??? There are 10 other people in line for this job who will ask no questions about their contracts...."
Hopefully I can learn my lesson and improve Thanks for the advice! |
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UncleAlex
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: Public School Starting Date? |
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The normal starting date is March 1. DO NOT sign a contract that reads
March 2 to February 28 (because March 1 is a holiday). If you do, there's
no severance pay for you at the end of the term, for you wouldn't have
worked a full 365 days a year. One day can make a difference and there's
nothing the Korea Labor Board can do for you.  |
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itsme
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi All
Are there any publications or websites aside from Dave's that I could look on for public schools in particlar? |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Here's one:
http://epik.knue.ac.kr/
Looks like they're slowly starting to get it updated for this year. |
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itsme
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the site. I only had time to briefly skim it right now. Some of the things they ask for... (Junior high transcripts???) A little out of the ordinary I would say. Ohh yeah and a self evaluation medical check.
I will have to spend more time on that one. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Maybe you meant this:
http://epik.knue.ac.kr/process.htm
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| (If English is not your first language) Proof of English education beginning from junior high school level (transcripts from Grade 7) |
The self-medical check is a bit foolish, but you'll have to have a real one done for your health coverage.
Might be a little better than a recruiter because recruiters have to be paid, too. However, a recruiter might be able to get you placed in an area that's more suitable to you.
There are a couple of pretty good jobs on www.pusanweb.com now from a pretty good recruiter...you might want to check those out...the one that's on Yong-do(I believe it's a co-ed middle school, but the sexes are actually separated into different classes) is only for ten months(ask specific questions about severance; the add says you get it) and the other in Hadan looks like a regular one-year contract(kindergarten and elementary; I think it's a public school). |
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noguri
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: criminal record check |
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Hmm, I just looked at the EPIK site and noticed that not only do they ask for this medical self-check, but they also ask for a police record of the applicant's criminal activities.
Does anyone know what they are asking for? Presumably, if I am not a criminal, then I have no police record and the best I could offer them is a letter from my local police department? What kind of record check document should I ask for at the police department?
Also, what is the story with their request for proof of teaching experience? They already require two letters of recommendation which would be from my two previous employers and will attest to my teaching experience. Should I request two different letters from the same employer, one as a recommendation and the other as proof of teaching experience? |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Holy cheese and rice! Are you ever barking up the wrong tree! Don't do EPIK or anything like that. Just find a decent contract and check it out on this site to make sure everything's on the up an up. If you're a first timer, just don't sign too bad of a contract. Check the school up on the net by doing searches. Don't bother wasting time talking to teachers that are there, etc. because they could be lying. I don't suggest doing public schools if you haven't taught before because it's way too many students. Just go hagwon. Trust me. You could get screwed some initially, but maybe not. At least you would know by your second year. Doesn't sound too good? Well, what can I say?
Just be on top of everything when you come. Be informed before you start working here.
It's not paradise, but you can't earn some coin. |
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noguri
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: public schools overwhelming? |
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| Thanks Jacl, that is good info. As a newb, it never occurred to me that a public school is more overwhelming for a new teacher than a hakwan. Is it really true that hakwans normally have smaller classes? Also, I thought they make you teach more hours at a hakwan. Is that also not actually true? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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If someone had put me into a public school classroom on my first day here, I would've run out screaming.
average class size at hagwon 10-15
average class at public school: 40 or so
teaching hours at hagwon 30
teaching hours at school 22, but lots more office hours too.
I'd strongly reccomend that newbies without some teaching experience avoid public schools. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
If someone had put me into a public school classroom on my first day here, I would've run out screaming.
average class size at hagwon 10-15
average class at public school: 40 or so
teaching hours at hagwon 30
teaching hours at school 22, but lots more office hours too.
I'd strongly reccomend that newbies without some teaching experience avoid public schools. |
Newbies without teaching experience? I agree. Hagwons are a great place to learn the ropes. After 3 years of hagwon teaching though, you are ready and should go to a public school. A government position, though not with EPIK or GEPIK, is far better than a hagwon job. Epik or Gepik? Id choose a hagwon over those as the pay quite frankly isnt much better. |
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