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why?why?why? changing the VISA process

 
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BrianInSuwon



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: why?why?why? changing the VISA process Reply with quote

If you change jobs after you finish your contract.
1. You have to have new 'original' transcripts sent to you.
2. You have to RE-submit your transcripts and original diploma to immigration to get the 'Request for VISA' form.
2. You have to leave the country to get the new VISA stamp.

WHY?

You are in the system. The government computer network has all your information stored under your passport number.

You should be able to take you passport, a letter from your new employer, and the contract to immigration and get a new VISA stamp. And instead of charging 60,000 won for the VISA they could charge 260,000 won to renew a VISA. Its cheaper for the school (no paying for the VISA run), a lot more money for the Korean government, and its easier for the teacher. Its a win, win, win situation.

There is a hagwon association which every Hagwon owner is required by law to join. The association could petition the government. The teachers could form an association/union and petition the government.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans enjoy dealing with mountains of paperwork- it makes them look busy, while allowing for lots of starcraft or online shopping time at work
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: why?why?why? changing the VISA process Reply with quote

BrianInSuwon wrote:
2. You have to leave the country to get the new VISA stamp.


This one is not new. It's been like that for years.

The rationale behind it is that you shouldn't be here if you don't have a visa. I know it sucks, but immigration bureaucracy is nonsensical the world over.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

question,
my boss says that in the next couple of weeks we can go to immigration and extend my current visa. we are discussing me renewing for six months. is this possible? or do i really have to leave the country whether i am working for the same school or a different one?
any links out there about this? thanks
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless something has changed that i don't know about, you don't have to leave the country if you're re-signing with the same school
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: perfect storm? Reply with quote

thank you. I think I'm heading toward the perfect storm with my hagwon, and i worried for a moment that this was just one more ingredient.
end of contract. boss hasnt paid taxes. just pushed my pay schedule back another week. (she will pay on the 13th of february for work until the 27th of january meaning that at teh end of the contract, she will be five weeks and three days behind.) bunch of stuff, but i think she working up to a huge (milllions) ripoff....
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharma bum wrote:
unless something has changed that i don't know about, you don't have to leave the country if you're re-signing with the same school


I'm only guessing, but I think that's the deal. As long as you are re-signing.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: perfect storm? Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
thank you. I think I'm heading toward the perfect storm with my hagwon, and i worried for a moment that this was just one more ingredient.
end of contract. boss hasnt paid taxes. just pushed my pay schedule back another week. (she will pay on the 13th of february for work until the 27th of january meaning that at teh end of the contract, she will be five weeks and three days behind.) bunch of stuff, but i think she working up to a huge (milllions) ripoff....



You should never fall more than one week behind. This is what I call the "no payee, no workee" situation. If they don't pay you after payday, come in every day for a week and ask every day about pay (ignore anything they tell you other than "Here it is"). Then on Friday tell them you are staying home until you get your pay (in full).
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