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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: Need Apple/Mac users to explain this to me |
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I'v never used a Mac so I don't know what this guy is talking about... Cloverleaf? Apple button?
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mihyita

Joined: 25 May 2005 Location: Sintanjin, Daejeon, Cheongju
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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well...
if u have ever used a laptop.. there's this 'fn' button for some special functions... and a pc usually uses ctrl + any other button for a huge array of things.
in mac's, instead of ctrl+c for copy, they use cloverleaf+c for copy. |
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Lizara

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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It's called command. It does pretty much what mihyita just said. Actually, it's often used as kind of a replacement for the right mouse button; the people with the Apple one-button mice command-click instead of right-clicking. I can't see the video (Currently, the playback feature of google video is not available in your country blah blah) so I can't comment on that. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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It was a rhetorical question whose sole purpose was to get Mac users to watch the video, but thanks for the info nevertheless. |
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Faron

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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U thought the video was funny, Will Ferrell has a couple of skits for mac pc's too. Very funny!  |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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To be honest I don't know if the video was funny because I've never used a Mac.
I am curious as to whether any Mac users find it funny/accurate. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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If you can't see the google video, go here: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/media/bitch.mpg
Now, as far as accuracy, here's my thoughts:
First off, when he refers to having to sneek up on a mac, or trick it, I've no idea. I've done graphic design on a mac since 1999, and can't for the life of me think of what he's talking about. I haven't done video editing but I've used Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Director, Quark, Word, Dreamweaver and Image Ready and had no major problems. I say save, it saves, I say copy/past, it does that too. It does what I tell it to. With Automator, a newer feature in OSX, I can streamline entire tasks. One action will set off a whole cascade of other ones if I want it to, but I don't bother with it. In 7 years of using a Mac, I can't think of anything that his claims apply to.
Also, we don't call it a cloverleaf, we call it the command key. Or the Apple key since it's got the apple on it next to the cloverleaf image.
As for the system locking up, that was a problem with OS9, but I've been on OSX for almost a year and have yet to have the system freeze. Every so often Safari (Apple's browser) quits, normally when I'm trying to play Windows Media files, and a window pops up, asking me if I want to restart it, I click yes, and I'm back to work. I've never had to do a system restart because it locked up. So on that one, again I have no idea what he's referring to. The system is designed not to crash if one program goes down. It has partitioned memory, from what I understand, which means that no program interferes with the other in regards to RAM allocation and the like. But whatever it is, I've never had the whole system crash on me. So, no idea on that one either.
The Cd playing automatically: That's a system preference, all he has to do is turn it off. I believe Windows has the same feature. As far as dragging files to or from a cd, yeah, it does only create a shortcut, but it's fixed by holding the command key when you click and drag. Maybe they'll fix that in an update because it is sort of a useless function. And with dragging it to the trash can and it locking up, again, I've never had the system lock up using OSX, which he's using if he has a "Dock".
The Update Manager: Again, it's a system preference, he can set it to check once a month, once a day or never if he wants. It simply checks Apple for software updates. I've got mine to to check once a week. If he clicks on a file by accident, it only renames it if he types after he selects it, which is the same on a windows file name. But if he does that, all he has to do is hit command+Z (undo) and the original name pops back up. And you can't crash the system from the update manager (or at all, in my experience) because it only gives you a list of things it recommends you install. If you click on one, it only highlights it and gives you a discription of what the update is for. If he goes in and rummages around in his system files for the things that were updated to play with them and renames it "nothing" then again, it can be rectified by hitting command+Z.
As far as recovering data, I don't know on that one. I've never thrown something away that I needed.
Boxing the Dock: If you move your mouse to close to the bottom, about 2 millimeters from where the screen ends, atleast on the monitor I've got now, then yes, the dock springs up. Sometimes if I've got a window to low and I move to click on the bottom, the dock will pop up and I've got to bring the window up, but that's what the dock does. It goes away when it's not needed and comes up when you move down there. Simply move the window up a half-centimeter and it's not a problem.
I think I've covered everything. In my opinion he's exaggerating a lot of those things, or just lying to be funny. I love my mac and would never use a PC. I can't stand them. One of the best conversations I ever had about mac and pc's was talking to a PC salesman at a Best Buy. He confessed that Window's sucks. He tries to sell it all day but he would never use it at home. He preferred Linux, but agreed with me that Mac was a "pretty good" OS, in his words. But it's not for everybody.
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