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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: Fossil Evidence of Adam & Eve Discovered... |
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Fossil shows how fish made the leap to land
NEW YORK - Scientists have caught a fossil fish in the act of adapting toward a life on land, a discovery that sheds new light on one of the greatest transformations in the history of animals.
Researchers have long known that fish evolved into the first creatures on land with four legs and backbones more than 365 million years ago, but they��ve had precious little fossil evidence to document how it happened.
The new find of several specimens looks more like a land-dweller than the few other fossil fish known from the transitional period, and researchers speculate that it may have taken brief excursions out of the water.
��It sort of blurs the distinction between fish and land-living animals,�� said one of its discoverers, paleontologist Neil Shubin of the University of Chicago.
Experts said the discovery, with its unusually well-preserved and complete skeletons, reveals significant new information about how the water-to-land evolution took place.
��It��s an important new contribution to (understanding) a very, very important transition in the history of life,�� said Robert Carroll of McGill University in Montreal...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12168265/?GT1=7938 |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| that is the gayest looking picture of any animal i've ever seen. that said, it's interesting stuff, to be sure. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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The head reminds me of Barney the Dinosaur, in a creepy way.
Why couldn't God have made this creature more esthetically pleasing?  |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Bad news for the creationists--they say the lack of such key fossil evidence is why Darwin's theory of evolution is wrong. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Fossil Evidence of Adam & Eve Discovered... |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
...NOT.
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I wasn't fooled for a second. I wanted to see what dumb picture you had posted. In that respect, I was not disappointed. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Nice one bulsajo, didn't realise you had a sense of humor. 
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| Bad news for the creationists--they say the lack of such key fossil evidence is why Darwin's theory of evolution is wrong. |
All they have actually found is a fish that is another example of a lobe-finned fish (one of which still lives today—the coelacanth) that has bones similar in position to those seen in the arm and wrist of land-walking creatures—except these structures support fins with rays in them, not digits like fingers and toes. They are NOT connected to the axial skeleton, and thus cannot support walking on land.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0406fishin.asp
There is the coelacanth fish, found in the same geological system (Devonian it is called) as this Tiktaalik discovery, that also has lobed fins. These lobed fins were once thought to enable the coelacanth to walk on the ocean floor (in fact it was, like ��Tiklaalik,�� once considered by evolutionists to be a type of transitional form). Later, it was determined that the coelacanth fins were used for better maneuvering through the water, and not for walking. The new creature uncovered in the Arctic might be something similar.
Also, there are other creatures (e.g., the Panderichthys) that are thought to be fish and yet appear to be similar in lobe and fin structure to Tiktaalik. In addition, the bones for Panderichthys, Tiktaalik and the coelacanth are imbedded in the muscle, and are not attached to the axial skeleton, which you would find in a reptile or amphibian (and which would be necessary for weight-bearing appendages).
Because evolutionists want to discover transitional forms, when they find a very old fish with leg-bone-like bones in its fins, they want to interpret this as evidence that it is some sort of transitional creature. However, other fish seem to have the same sort of structure as stated above, and these bones are not constructed as one would expect for weight-bearing legs.
Evolutionists have no examples of mutations or evolutionary processes that can lead to an increase in genetic information in a creature that would, for example, develop the appendage of a land animal from the fin of a fish (as would be required by molecules-to-man evolution).  Evolution is stopped in its tracks at this point.
back to the drawing board eh?  |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| On this thread, I think "Rapier" is more correct and convincing than the speculative, atheistic evolutionists (and their supporters...) |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Fossil Evidence of Adam & Eve Discovered... |
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| Porter_Goss wrote: |
| Bulsajo wrote: |
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I wasn't fooled for a second. I wanted to see what dumb picture you had posted. In that respect, I was not disappointed. |
Glad to oblige! Yeah, as endofworld pointed out, it's a pretty gay looking fish (not that there's anything wrong with that...)
I'm hoping Sparkles will show up here with a good quip à la his "big gay ride at Gay Land" one... |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I caught one of those on a fishing trip to the artic once. It wasn't quite so tasty as furry singling lobster though. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| On this thread, I think "Rapier" is more correct and convincing than the speculative, atheistic evolutionists (and their supporters...) |
Agnostic.
Just because I don't believe in YOUR religion doesn't mean I completely rule out the possibility of a higher power.
"Speculative"?
Unwilling to blindly and unquestioningly follow the Bible or other religious dogma, yes.
So speculative, yes.
You make speculative sound like a bad word.
funny that you of all people here would back Rapier.
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
funny that you of all people here would back Rapier.
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Funny. I was thinking the same thing. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Fossil Evidence of Adam & Eve Discovered... |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| it's a pretty gay looking fish |
I have to point out it WAS found in Canada.
So further evidence Rapier has turned into a bible thumping fundamentalist Christian.
Rapier, if you had lung cancer would you
a) Go to a homeopath with an occult knowledge of crystal and psychic healing methods?
b) Pray to the Christ Jesus?
c) See an oncologist? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
Agnostic.
Just because I don't believe in YOUR religion doesn't mean I completely rule out the possibility of a higher power.
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Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof. With Athiests, they can continuously disprove things (usually not well), but with us, there is really nothing to disprove, only PROVE. That's their problem with us
To be honest, it would take a lot less proof to prove to me that there is a God rather than not. Though it would take a lot of proof that if there was a God, that he gave a damn and didn't laugh at that storybook called the Bible. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. |
And even funnier, it was a criticism from rteacher, whose religion has a panopoly of gods.
Who is worse in a Christians' eyes- an agnostic or an multi-deity worshipping pagan?
Yet here on this board, they both make common cause against evolutionary theories.
It's a complete comedy of the absurd around here. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Fossil Evidence of Adam & Eve Discovered... |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
if you had lung cancer would you
a) Go to a homeopath with an occult knowledge of crystal and psychic healing methods?
b) Pray to the Christ Jesus?
c) See an oncologist? |
d) Suicide by cop? |
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